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  • rrayvez
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    #71
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Why is it so hard to accept that Margarito was just too big, too much pressure, and too durable in the first fight with Cotto result in him breaking Cotto down? Did anyone actually read the report on what was in his wraps? It was not plaster just "some of the elements that could be used to make plaster". There is no evidence at all that he ever had loaded wraps in any fight.
    Read this which includes quotes from Richardson who was the one who made them take off the wraps and tell
    me you still choose to be in denial.


    In the process of wrapping the other hand, Richardson questioned the amount of tape going directly on Margarito’s skin, and asked for a rewrapping. During the rewrapping, it got to a point where a cushion was placed across Margarito’s knuckles. But when Richardson asked if he could “feel” the cushion that’s when the Margarito camp began to protest.

    Margarito’s co-manager Francisco Espinoza was the most defiant telling Richardson, “I expected this from you,” to which Richardson said: “You should expect me to do my job.”

    Over protests from the Margarito camp, Richardson was allowed to feel the cushion. “It was brick hard,” said Richardson, who told the Lohuis to feel it himself. Once Lohuis felt the cushion he ordered that it be “opened up,” Richardson said.

    “When he opened it up, a little square block of old wet gauze packed real tight came out,” Richardson said. “It was like it had plaster on it. I think it had an old dried up blood stain on it.”

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    • Oregonian
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      #72
      Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

      Margacheato's reign at the top was 1 and done.
      Not sure how he became a person of interest when it came to May.
      Margacheato had to be the least impressive of all the boogeymen.
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      Margacheato was trash and a bonafide cheat. The idea that he offered Floyd $8 million when he had never even made half of that in any fight his career is asinine. In his biggest fight against Cotto, he made $3 million so somehow he was offering Floyd more than twice that? Sheer madness!

      The kicker is, Mosley destroyed him. Literally beat him up like a pińata. Where was the machismo then?

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        #73
        Originally posted by Robi13

        Ok, cotto was getting walked down in the second fight just like he did to finish the first fight… that’s what I meant. He was about to get stopped again, ref saved cotto
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        Margarcheato cheated. If Cotto was “saved” by the ref, so fückín what? Good! Margacheato got fückèd. He deserved it. Hopefully he gets Alzheimer’s for that and for mocking Freddy Roach.

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          #74
          Originally posted by djtmal

          Who you talking about Margarito?

          Yeah Floyd actually turned down 8 million for Margarito to take on a bigger more dangerous opponent in Carlos Baldymir
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          Who offered Floyd $8 million? Margarito? That scumbag made $3 million fighting Cotto so how exactly did he offer Floyd $8 million.

          If you are about to say it was Bob, well, Bob is on record saying the most he would offer Floyd for the Oscar fight was $8 million. Guess how much Floyd made when he fought Oscar as a free agent? $25 million.
          Also, Floyd moved up to 147 in 2006. He had no belt aka no leverage and he wasn’t the global star he became so he fought Zab and Baldomir and got two belies which led to the Oscar fight.

          If Margacheato was that good, how come he got destroyed by Mosley so easily?

          Meanwhile, your idol fought Margacheato at a catchweight of 150 for a VACANT 154 Ibs title and that was a great win for you guys. LOL.
          Not to mention he fought Margacheato after Mosley destroyed him but but but Floyd this and that.

          The hate is unreal.

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          • djtmal
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            #75
            Originally posted by Oregonian
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            Who offered Floyd $8 million? Margarito? That scumbag made $3 million fighting Cotto so how exactly did he offer Floyd $8 million.

            If you are about to say it was Bob,
            Don't matter it was widely reported Floyd turned down 8 million for Margarito and instead fought Carlos Baldymir for 8 million and a penny.

            In addition Margarito literally stalked Floyd for a fight when you Floyd boys love to crow about everybody ducking him before he was the a side. On video for proof

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            • djtmal
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              #76
              Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

              not trying to jump into this debate but you asked so i provided --

              In 2006, Floyd Mayweather Jr. declined an $8 million offer to fight Antonio Margarito. Instead of taking the fight, he bought out his contract with promoter Bob Arum's Top Rank for $750,000 and became a promotional free agent, according to ESPN and Yahoo Sports. Mayweather's adviser, Leonard Ellerbe, cited a hand injury from his previous fight against Zab Judah as the reason for turning down the Margarito fight, according to the Chicago Tribune


              Later on, Arum was very quick to take a shot at his former fighter, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Arum is still on Mayweather's case for turning down a fight with Margarito back in 2006. He offered him $8 million dollars for the fight, but Mayweather turned it down and instead took a fight with Carlos Baldomir.

              https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382

              https://www.chicagotribune.com/2006/04/25/mayweather-rejects-big-payday-splits-with-arum/

              https://bleacherreport.com/articles/425741-floyd-mayweather-jr-needs-to-get-out-of-his-own-way
              Thank you this has been posted many times.

              These guys know Floyd ducked.

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                #77
                This was a sad day watching Live. All the hype had me going nuts. Folks calling it the superbowl of boxing. It delivered completely in the first few rds until Margacheato started to take over.

                Now fast forward after everything came to light and you start questioning all over Margarito's past wins. Let's think about how he nearly punched Sebastian's ear off in their fight. How many fights have you seen a dude's ear torn up like that? It was like flopping from his head. What about how he went right through Kermit Cintron? Kermit was getting dropped from almost anything Margarito landed on him.

                In fact I think the turning point of Margacheato and plaster became after his first loss prior to losing to Paul Williams. Following his loss to Daniel Santos, the next fight he nearly punches Sebastian's ear off. Then he KO's Cintron in 5. In fact goes on to KO everyone else after besides Paul Williams and Joshua Clottey, both who had solid chins back then. I think his team suspected his career was going to fizzle out and they had to do one last hail mary attempt to revive his career and this was it. It was pretty much working to a tee until he got caught. Aside from the Paul Williams loss, he was literally on a tear since taking his last L to Santos.
                Last edited by ELPacman; 07-29-2025, 11:08 AM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  Why is it so hard to accept that Margarito was just too big, too much pressure, and too durable in the first fight with Cotto result in him breaking Cotto down? Did anyone actually read the report on what was in his wraps? It was not plaster just "some of the elements that could be used to make plaster". There is no evidence at all that he ever had loaded wraps in any fight.
                  Not sure you quite understand how it works.

                  Margarito wasn’t caught with “something that COULD” make plaster he was caught with something that DOES form plaster (with moisture) which is why the substance is illegal to use. Otherwise why the fuck would he have the substance on his wraps in the first place? For fun?

                  He was banned from boxing for having illegal substances on his handwraps. That isn’t up for debate. You spinning that as there “not being evidence” for having loaded wraps vs Mosley when he was LITERALLY caught with illegal wraps for that fight is laughable.

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                  • MeanestNiceGuy
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

                    Cotto had his number
                    Wasted too much energy trying to be cute.

                    Plaster wraps are not allowed for a reason, so it's way important and the sport thought so as well.
                    I don't recall if a roider ever did any level of damage to their opp.
                    Shane didn't inflict any harm to DLH.
                    My initial point was, Margarito landed the shots whether his wraps were loaded or not...maybe that was Cotto's fault? I mean, the punches started landing from round 2 on.

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                    • Gary Coleman
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Grandma Lover

                      Lmfao "Google is at your fingertips"

                      The arrogance and you were so wrong and ****** and still don't wanna admit it
                      There's literal bagged evidence with a blood stain on it.

                      How do you fail an open book test? Never mind, I know how.

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