Muhammad Ali vs Oleksandr Usyk: Can Usyk Surpass Ali’s Legacy?

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  • TheIronMike
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    #71
    Originally posted by NihonJim

    If you want to talk skill, Ali had life and death with 175lb Cooper and had to climb off the canvas and use smelling salts to revive.

    It's not close
    While Usyk went life and death with the same Delboy Chisora who 6 years prior got 12-0'd by a 40 year old Vitali.

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    • TheProudLunatic
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      #72
      I hope Usyk's rabid level fan base comes back down to Earth and realize the err of their ways.
      His sensible fans know better than to mistake him for Ali's equal or better
      His rabid fans won't even share the HOFer(s) (may not be plural) he will have on his resume.

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      • NihonJim
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        #73
        Originally posted by TheProudLunatic
        I hope Usyk's rabid level fan base comes back down to Earth and realize the err of their ways.
        His sensible fans know better than to mistake him for Ali's equal or better
        His rabid fans won't even share the HOFer(s) (may not be plural) he will have on his resume.
        Bredis
        Bellew
        Joshua
        Fury

        Maybe Dubois and Parker as well

        I predict 5 prime HOF beaten when all is said and done.

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        • TheProudLunatic
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          #74
          Originally posted by NihonJim

          Bredis
          Bellew

          Joshua
          Fury

          Maybe Dubois and Parker as well

          I predict 5 prime HOF beaten when all is said and done.
          When was the last time ANYONE, including you, mentioned Bellew or Bredis in any fashion ?!?!?
          Any threads anointing them as HOFers ?!?!?

          DD and Parker
          Further proof this is the worst HW era in the history of the sport

          At least you named names

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          • Donnie Herrera
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            #75
            Originally posted by garfios
            Not an Ali fan. But I know quality when I see one, just like Usyk is a great fighter not comparable with Ali.
            Wish there were more like you…who objectively look at fighters and their resume…not all that other stuff…

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              #76
              Originally posted by kafkod

              Every time Usyk steps in the ring he is fighting to protect the free world from domination by the monstrous war machine of the evil despotic tyrant Putin.

              You should be grateful, as I am.

              Thank you Oleksandr The Great. We are feel, we are very feel.
              You sound like a brainwashed cult follower…how is the war working out???…How many more of his countrymen have to die???…Soldiers on both sides were pulled into war against their will…why doesn’t Usyk call for an end to the war like Ali would???…Because he’s not on Ali’s level and never will be…Ali would not be fighting right now during war…if it were his country being bombed…he’d protest boxing and the whole world…he wouldn’t be boxing that’s for sure…he’d be with the people trying to end the war…see the difference???…I’m not talking about the difference in color…you gotta see past that if you’re gonna view yourself as intelligent…

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                #77
                Originally posted by TheIronMike

                Well considering over 370K Ukranian military casualties, Usyk is failing spectacularly.

                The Ukranian people had a hand in the war against France during the Napoleonic Wars. They owe a great debt that can only be paid through annihilation
                Considering Putin told Russian state news that Ukraine would be part of the Russian Federation within 2 days when he launched his "special military operation" back in Feb 2022, and now, 3 and a half years later, with over 1 million Russian causalities and the Russian economy on the verge of collapse, Ukraine is still a sovereign nation and Europe is not a radio-active wasteland, I think Usyk's defence of western civilization has been a spectacular success.

                All hail Oleksandr the Great!

                We are feel! We are very feel!

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Donnie Herrera

                  You sound like a brainwashed cult follower…how is the war working out???…How many more of his countrymen have to die???…Soldiers on both sides were pulled into war against their will…why doesn’t Usyk call for an end to the war like Ali would???…Because he’s not on Ali’s level and never will be…Ali would not be fighting right now during war…if it were his country being bombed…he’d protest boxing and the whole world…he wouldn’t be boxing that’s for sure…he’d be with the people trying to end the war…see the difference???…I’m not talking about the difference in color…you gotta see past that if you’re gonna view yourself as intelligent…
                  Yes, but no ...

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                  • Bennyleonard99
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                    #79
                    He already has. Perfect career. No mistakes. Beaten everyone. Did it with class and honor. Never called anyone a gorilla or racial epithet. Never humiliated an opponent on live television. He never took a beating. His style has more dimensions than Ali. Usyk is the goat. Usyk is boxing perfection. He made the sport looks easy. Ali got chewed up and spit out by the sport in the end. The sport beat Ali in the end. Usyk looks at his very best at 38.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Bennyleonard99
                      He already has. Perfect career. No mistakes. Beaten everyone.
                      A glorified night club bouncer and a robotic musclehead
                      In this clown bus of an era, Dubois and Chisora are considered quality opps !!!!!!!!!

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