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Muhammad Ali vs Oleksandr Usyk: Can Usyk Surpass Ali’s Legacy?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by Donnie Herrera View Post

    Damn skippy!!!…

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    Not an Ali fan. But I know quality when I see one, just like Usyk is a great fighter not comparable with Ali.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Haka View Post

      Lewis is considered among the best head to head HWs and he was a Brit ?
      Are we talking about Usyk or Lewis? Just because Fury is a drunk, it doesn't mean Lewis is, but he was afraid of rematching Klitschko, which brings us back to AJ.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Donnie Herrera View Post

        Usyk is helping fund the killing of innocent men…women and children on both sides of the war!!!…

        Ali on the other hand was a philanthropist:


        renowned philanthropist who donated generously to various causes throughout his life. He notably donated to the UNCF, Kosair Children's Hospital, and the Sahel region of West Africa during a drought. He also supported organizations like The Cradle, Make A Wish Foundation,and Best Buddies. Ali's charitable efforts extended to various humanitarian causes, including disaster relief and supporting disadvantaged people across the globe.
        Here's a more detailed look at his donations:
        • UNCF:
          In 1967, Ali donated $10,000 to the UNCF (United Negro College Fund), which is equivalent to about $90,000 in 2024.
        • Kosair Children's Hospital:
          He donated proceeds from a fight to Kosair Children's Hospital shortly after winning the Olympic gold medal.
        • African Drought Relief:
          He donated 50 cents from each ticket sold for his closed-circuit television title match against Chuck Wepner to aid the drought-stricken Sahel region of West Africa.
        • Organizations:
          Ali supported numerous organizations including The Cradle, Make A Wish Foundation, Best Buddies, Herbert E. Birch Services, and the Muhammad Ali Parkinson Research Center.
        • Other Humanitarian Efforts:
          He also helped feed millions afflicted by hunger, supported disaster relief, and delivered supplies to hospitals and orphanages in Africa and Asia.

        Ali has done a lot more charitable things than that where people are encouraged to thrive and stay alive not fund the death of innocent men…women and children in a mindless war like Usyk!!!…

        Every time Usyk steps in the ring he is fighting to protect the free world from domination by the monstrous war machine of the evil despotic tyrant Putin.

        You should be grateful, as I am.

        Thank you Oleksandr The Great. We are feel, we are very feel.
        Last edited by kafkod; 07-26-2025, 01:23 PM.

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        • #64
          damn usyk is retiring in a fight he says so i dont know what this talk means all the current crop can do is try to be the best of their generation usyk has fought all the guys he should have fought and he didnt marinate or avoid as far as i know so thats a good job done u cant compare to guys like ali totally different eras opponents just cant compare that stuff

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          • #65
            Mayhaps if he gets a meeting with ***** and knocks him dead, that’ll be about the only thing.

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            • #66
              noone can surpass ali i dont think at the end of the day its a bit silly to compare to that guy

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              • #67
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                Every time Usyk steps in the ring he is fighting to protect the free world from domination by the monstrous war machine of the evil despotic tyrant Putin.

                You should be grateful, as I am.

                Thank you Oleksandr The Great. We are feel, we are very feel.
                Well considering over 370K Ukranian military casualties, Usyk is failing spectacularly.

                The Ukranian people had a hand in the war against France during the Napoleonic Wars. They owe a great debt that can only be paid through annihilation

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                • #68
                  It's worth noting the character of the two men.

                  Ali denigrated and abused his opponents at every turn, he ruined Joe Frazier's life by convincing people Joe was an "Uncle Tom" and the far more privileged Ali was a real Negro

                  Ali was also a cheat in the ring.

                  Usyk uplifts all around him and is the cleanest fighter in boxing.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by NihonJim View Post
                    It's worth noting the character of the two men.

                    Ali denigrated and abused his opponents at every turn, he ruined Joe Frazier's life by convincing people Joe was an "Uncle Tom" and the far more privileged Ali was a real Negro

                    Ali was also a cheat in the ring.

                    Usyk uplifts all around him and is the cleanest fighter in boxing.
                    Nobody takes character into consideration when assessing skill.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by TheIronMike View Post

                      Nobody takes character into consideration when assessing skill.
                      If you want to talk skill, Ali had life and death with 175lb Cooper and had to climb off the canvas and use smelling salts to revive.

                      It's not close

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