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  • #21
    Originally posted by Donnie Herrera View Post


    You’re absolutely right about Muhammad Ali the British Flyweight but not the Heavyweight Muhammad Ali…(pssst…your lack of boxing knowledge is showing that you follow it only to cheer for boxers that look like you…haha)


    A British Olympic boxer named Muhammad Ali was banned from the sport for two years in February 2018 after testing positive for a banned steroid called Trenbolone

    . The positive test occurred in April 2017 during a World Series Boxing match in Casablanca, Morocco. Ali, then 21, was provisionally suspended in October 2017, according to Reuters.

    Ali argued that he may have ingested the substance unintentionally, potentially through contaminated meat he consumed in Morocco, or even through a drink meant for his father. However, he was unable to provide sufficient evidence to support this claim, and the ban was upheld.

    The International Amateur Boxing Association (AIBA) acknowledged that Ali did not take the substance with the intention to cheat. However, he still received the two-year ban and was ineligible to compete until May 2019.​


    Muhammad Ali: British boxer banned for two years after positive test




    6 February 2018 Getty Images Muhammad Ali fought at the Rio Olympics, losing to Venezuela's Yoel Segundo Finol
    By Dan Roan

    BBC sports editor

    British Olympic boxer Muhammad Ali has been banned for two years after failing a drugs test.

    The 21-year-old flyweight tested positive for the anabolic steroid Trenbolone during the World Series of Boxing in Morocco in April last year.

    Ali argued he may have eaten contaminated meat in Morocco, or had the steroid in his system after having a drink intended for his father.

    But it was decided he not give enough proof to establish he was not at fault.

    "All they caught me with was two nanograms. I can't explain it," said Ali.

    "I was trying to make 52kg and I wouldn't want to put muscle on. I was literally trying to cut weight. It doesn't make sense."

    Ali, the first member of the British boxing squad to fail a drugs test for a banned substance, will be eligible to compete again in May 2019.

    He was provisionally suspended in October and has now reached a "settlement agreement" with the International Boxing Association (AIBA).

    AIBA acknowledged Ali had not taken the substance with the intention to cheat.
    GB Boxing said it is "committed to clean sport" and noted AIBA found the athlete did not intend to cheat.

    A spokesperson added: "At GB Boxing, our focus is on supporting the boxers on the World Class Performance Programme and giving them the support, assistance and coaching expertise they need to develop, improve and win medals at major international championships and the Olympic Games.

    "We work with UK Anti-Doping (UKAD) and our International Federation to provide extensive education and support to our boxers on anti-doping rules, the anti-doping obligations upon them as athletes and the importance of adhering to the principles of clean sport."

    Trenbolone, which supports muscle growth, is on the World Anti-Doping Agency's prohibited list.

    Ali, who lost in the first round of the 2016 Rio Olympics, believes the length of his ban is "extreme" and said it "couldn't have been any worse".

    The European silver medallist added: "I didn't leave my bedroom for five months. I was so depressed, but it is what it is. I've just got to do my time and move on.

    "I thought it would be a six-month suspension or something."

    Ali is now targeting the Tokyo 2020 Olympics.

    "It 100% makes me more hungry - I want it more than ever now - not 1% of me thought this would ever happen to me, " he said.

    "There's going to be people saying this and that. I don't want anyone thinking I'm a bad guy."

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/429...0boxer%20Muham mad%20Ali,did%20not%20intend%20to%20cheat.
    Here you go dumbass lmfao

    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/artic...line-bcrwwbvnj

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    • #22
      Many feel he already has.

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      • #23
        Ali -
        Patterson 2x
        Quarry 2x
        Liston 2x
        Lyle
        Frazier 3x
        Norton 3x
        Forman
        (Only caught 2 L's from the above list)
        And a bunch of solid gatekeepers

        I'll let Usyk anoiters stake their claim

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        • #24
          Yes, era's ranked from best to worst:

          - 20s Usyk goat
          - 00 K Brothers + Lewis
          - 10s K Brothers + Fury
          - 90s Andy Ruiz > Michael Moorer
          - 70, 80s Luis Ortiz and Frankie Sanchez would be boogeyman in this era​​​​

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Haka View Post
            Yes, era's ranked from best to worst:

            - 20s Usyk goat
            - 00 K Brothers + Lewis
            - 10s K Brothers + Fury
            - 90s Andy Ruiz > Michael Moorer
            - 70, 80s Luis Ortiz and Frankie Sanchez would be boogeyman in this era​​​​
            Ali's resume vs Usyk's resume, doe

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            • #26
              Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post

              Ali's resume vs Usyk's resume, doe
              Big fish in a small pond, Chisora would stand out too.

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              • #27
                You don’t even read…smh!!!…

                ”A urine sample revealed codeine and phenothiazines — painkillers and antidepressants — in Ali’s body​”

                A far cry from “steroids” like you said…also this was in 1980

                he took painkillers AFTER his fight with Holmes…not during their fight…when he was past his prime…

                The boxer claimed that he had taken the drugs immediately after his loss to Holmes, to speed his recovery.​

                Source???…your own link: https://www.thetimes.com/sport/artic...line-bcrwwbvnj

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Haka View Post

                  Big fish in a small pond, Chisora would stand out too.

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                  "The shlt is still too small....."

                  Post up those 3 names and get it over with !

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                  • #29
                    #23 will go unquoted !!!!!!!!!!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by NihonJim View Post
                      Many feel he already has.
                      Many “feel”???…The “many” don’t have a “soul” to “feel” while in the real world Usyk has only 8 fights at heavyweight…highly disrespectful to compare him to Ali when his competition consists of euro bums half of those fights were rematches so he really only has 4 fights against different fighters at heavyweight…that is truly sad…he couldn’t do this during James Toney…Tyson…Holyfield and Lennox Lewis’ day…he’d have some L’s…this is the weakest of heavyweights there has ever been since Clitschko’s reign…the worst heavyweight ever outside of John Ruiz…

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