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Originally posted by Donnie Herrera
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No. His own legacy won't be too shabby though. -
If that makes you feel better. He has took a photo with a gun that is about it for show. They've been at war 3+ years whilst ordinary Ukranian men are getting kidnapped and thrown in trucks to go onto the frontline he gets a pass because of his connections, such as the Klitschko brothers who live in luxury and their mansions whilst they send anyone else to fight. Usyk was born in Crimea, that was took in 2014. Had a decade to fight for his home cityOriginally posted by kafkod View PostLast edited by Boxing 112; 07-24-2025, 07:50 PM.Comment
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His legacy as a whole is great now he just has more work to do if he’s gonna be mentioned with Muhammad Ali…8 fights at heavyweight against C fighters half of which were rematches isn’t gonna cut it…also outside the ring Usyk isn’t making noise for the war to stop against his home country…if that were Ali today…he would stop the war because he’s respected that much and makes noise with a big enough voice for Justice…Ali stood for justice and civil rights for people of color and people who were victims of wore torn countries…he didn’t believe in going across the world to kill innocent men…women and children…Usyk says nothing and holds no hearings…protests or nothin’!!!…But yes his legacy in terms of strictly boxing isn’t bad but still pales in comparison to MUHUMMAD ALI & His LEGACY & GREATNESS!!!…Originally posted by kafkod View Post
Cheers bro…
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He already has.
Ali was a steroid cheat just like his fellow "great" boxers like roid Jones, Aaron pryor, froid Mayweather, Shane Mosley, James toney etcComment
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Of course Usyk has been speaking out against the war. But usually, not in English. It's an East European war and Usyk is an East European, who lives in Eastern Europe. He visits troops on the front line and, has also raised millions, and donated millions from his fight purses, to The Usyk Foundation, a humanitarian aid charity he founded to help victims of the war.Originally posted by Donnie Herrera View Post
I'm not here to shit on The Greatest, but you are out of your mind if you think Ali could have stopped the war in Ukraine. He couldn't stop the Vietnam war, and he couldn't stop the Russian invasion of Afghanistan either:
"In early 1980, Ali was recruited by President Jimmy Carter for a diplomatic mission to Africa, in an effort to persuade a number of African governments to join the US-led boycott of the Moscow Olympics in protest of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Having arrived in Tanzania, Ali told cameras, "Russia is invading a ****** country, Asiatic country," and that its probable intention to head to oil-rich Persia to take wells and ports "could lead to nuclear war. My purpose in coming here was to try to stop that."[258] However, according to Ali biographer Thomas Hauser, "at best, it was ill-conceived; at worst, a diplomatic disaster." The Tanzanian government was insulted that Carter had sent an athlete to discuss a serious political issue. One official asked whether the United States would "send Chris Evert to negotiate with London"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali#Later_lifeLast edited by kafkod; 07-24-2025, 08:42 PM.Comment
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It doesn't matter what makes me feel better. Facts don't care about my feelings, nor yours.Originally posted by Boxing 112 View PostComment
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There is no evidence at all that Ali took steroids.Originally posted by Grandma Lover View PostComment
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Originally posted by Grandma Lover View Post
You’re absolutely right about Muhammad Ali the British Flyweight but not the Heavyweight Muhammad Ali…(pssst…your lack of boxing knowledge is showing that you follow it only to cheer for boxers that look like you…haha)
A British Olympic boxer named Muhammad Ali was banned from the sport for two years in February 2018 after testing positive for a banned steroid called Trenbolone
. The positive test occurred in April 2017 during a World Series Boxing match in Casablanca, Morocco. Ali, then 21, was provisionally suspended in October 2017, according to Reuters.
Ali argued that he may have ingested the substance unintentionally, potentially through contaminated meat he consumed in Morocco, or even through a drink meant for his father. However, he was unable to provide sufficient evidence to support this claim, and the ban was upheld.
The International Amateur Boxing Association (AIBA) acknowledged that Ali did not take the substance with the intention to cheat. However, he still received the two-year ban and was ineligible to compete until May 2019.
Muhammad Ali: British boxer banned for two years after positive test
6 February 2018
Getty Images Muhammad Ali fought at the Rio Olympics, losing to Venezuela's Yoel Segundo Finol
By Dan Roan
BBC sports editor
British Olympic boxer Muhammad Ali has been banned for two years after failing a drugs test.
The 21-year-old flyweight tested positive for the anabolic steroid Trenbolone during the World Series of Boxing in Morocco in April last year.
Ali argued he may have eaten contaminated meat in Morocco, or had the steroid in his system after having a drink intended for his father.
But it was decided he not give enough proof to establish he was not at fault.
"All they caught me with was two nanograms. I can't explain it," said Ali.
"I was trying to make 52kg and I wouldn't want to put muscle on. I was literally trying to cut weight. It doesn't make sense."
Ali, the first member of the British boxing squad to fail a drugs test for a banned substance, will be eligible to compete again in May 2019.
He was provisionally suspended in October and has now reached a "settlement agreement" with the International Boxing Association (AIBA).
AIBA acknowledged Ali had not taken the substance with the intention to cheat.
GB Boxing said it is "committed to clean sport" and noted AIBA found the athlete did not intend to cheat.
A spokesperson added: "At GB Boxing, our focus is on supporting the boxers on the World Class Performance Programme and giving them the support, assistance and coaching expertise they need to develop, improve and win medals at major international championships and the Olympic Games.
"We work with UK Anti-Doping (UKAD) and our International Federation to provide extensive education and support to our boxers on anti-doping rules, the anti-doping obligations upon them as athletes and the importance of adhering to the principles of clean sport."
Trenbolone, which supports muscle growth, is on the World Anti-Doping Agency's prohibited list.
Ali, who lost in the first round of the 2016 Rio Olympics, believes the length of his ban is "extreme" and said it "couldn't have been any worse".
The European silver medallist added: "I didn't leave my bedroom for five months. I was so depressed, but it is what it is. I've just got to do my time and move on.
"I thought it would be a six-month suspension or something."
Ali is now targeting the Tokyo 2020 Olympics.
"It 100% makes me more hungry - I want it more than ever now - not 1% of me thought this would ever happen to me, " he said.
"There's going to be people saying this and that. I don't want anyone thinking I'm a bad guy."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/429...0boxer%20Muham mad%20Ali,did%20not%20intend%20to%20cheat.Last edited by Donnie Herrera; 07-24-2025, 09:23 PM.Comment
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You don’t understand why they rejected Ali…it was much more than him being an Athlete…Originally posted by kafkod View Post
Usyk donating millions to a war that encourages killing…so Usyk is sponsoring innocent bloodshed with his own money…your words…Ali protested against the war and was banned from boxing for 3 years for his stance…comparing Usyk to Ali in that light pales in comparison too!!!…
“Yes, Muhammad Ali was banned from boxing for three years. This suspension occurred in 1967 after he refused to be inducted into the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War. He was stripped of his heavyweight title and convicted of draft evasion, receiving a five-year prison sentence (though he never served time) and a $10,000 fine. The ban effectively ended his career for those three years, preventing him from fighting professionally.“
Instead your man donates millions to keep bloodshed going instead of using his millions and voice to speak against it!!!…
Morals and principles…Ali got Usyk beat all day!!!…
Last edited by Donnie Herrera; 07-24-2025, 09:25 PM.Comment
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