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  • #41
    Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post

    You didn't answer the question, name one W on GGG resume that is better than AJ and or Fury?
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    • #42
      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

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      Im sorry, but I dont see a single W in all 3 fights on GGG resume next to Canelos name, try again.

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      • #43
        It's not that GGG career was mismanaged back in the day he simply could not get fights even in Germany, then Froch didn't want it in 2015, and Canelo waited GGG out and got tested for PEDS in camp. All around GGG declined slightly because of Abel Sanchez messed him up, G was a magnificent technical boxer in the olympics. Overal Usyk still has more of the complete package.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post

          Im sorry, but I dont see a single W in all 3 fights on GGG resume next to Canelos name, try again.
          1st fight was ruled a draw in which most felt GGG won.

          Usyk have wins over an overrated AJ and a washed fury. you can make a case that AJ = gab rosado and washed fury = kell brook.

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          • #45
            To be honest, Usyk was never feared to the degree Golovkin was. Because of the different styles: Usyk may outpoint you, but in the worst case you'll lose a decision. This was a narrative. Only later it became more evident, that he'll beat you with a high pace and superior conditioning and you'll likely not make it to the final bell.. Still it did not look that threatening, while GGG was a destruction personified. And this fact worked to Usyk's advantage perfectly, because he was getting all those fights, while GGG had to settle for whoever was brave enough, while he was in his prime.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by mick1303 View Post
              To be honest, Usyk was never feared to the degree Golovkin was. Because of the different styles: Usyk may outpoint you, but in the worst case you'll lose a decision. This was a narrative. Only later it became more evident, that he'll beat you with a high pace and superior conditioning and you'll likely not make it to the final bell.. Still it did not look that threatening, while GGG was a destruction personified. And this fact worked to Usyk's advantage perfectly, because he was getting all those fights, while GGG had to settle for whoever was brave enough, while he was in his prime.
              As I've mentioned before, Usyk was fortunate he was able to have a tournament in his division. Like Inoue, Taylor and Ward before him, they were afforded an opportunity to get to fight the best in their division, something Golovkin obviously wasn't able to do.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                1st fight was ruled a draw in which most felt GGG won.

                Usyk have wins over an overrated AJ and a washed fury. you can make a case that AJ = gab rosado and washed fury = kell brook.

                Gab rosa and Kell Brook.... really bro? Thats who you think is a better name than AJ or Fury? I'd like to know where you buy your drugs.
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post


                  Gab rosa and Kell Brook.... really bro? Thats who you think is a better name than AJ or Fury? I'd like to know where you buy your drugs.
                  bro, I said at the time Usyk fought them. they weren't the same fighters anymore... AJ was always overrated. and when usyk fought fury. that was a washed up fury. so if you factor all that in, AJ and fury are equivalent to rosado and kell Brook.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                    bro, I said at the time Usyk fought them. they weren't the same fighters anymore... AJ was always overrated. and when usyk fought fury. that was a washed up fury. so if you factor all that in, AJ and fury are equivalent to rosado and kell Brook.
                    What do you mean they weren't the same fighters, the same fighters as what and when? AJ had all the belts minus the WBC, redeemed himself against Ruiz, and was coming off one of his most impressive looking victories in Pulev, he was also about 3 years younger than Usyk.

                    Tyson Fury was undefeated, the lineal champion, was considered the best heavyweight in the world and was also 3 years younger than Usyk. To say he was washed is equivalent to saying that Evander Holyfield was washed after his win over Bert Cooper.


                    At no point did Rosado and Kelly Brook come close to achieving what Fury and AJ have.

                    We’re only talking heavyweight, but Usyk also defeated, Bellew, Briedis, Hunter, Gassiev etc… GGG resume is solid but subpar when compared to Usyk, even if you give him back to back wins against Canelo.
                    Last edited by JimRaynor; 07-22-2025, 08:57 PM.
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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                      LOL!! Usyk has been beating up on tomato cans!!! at least GGG have canelo on his resume who most thought he won the 1st fight.


                      And the second too.
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