Is Usyk better than Golovkin ever was?

[JimRaynor]

canelo / discussion

Im sorry, but I dont see a single W in all 3 fights on GGG resume next to Canelos name, try again.

[Haka]

It's not that GGG career was mismanaged back in the day he simply could not get fights even in Germany, then Froch didn't want it in 2015, and Canelo waited GGG out and got tested for PEDS in camp. All around GGG declined slightly because of Abel Sanchez messed him up, G was a magnificent technical boxer in the olympics. Overal Usyk still has more of the complete package.

[mick1303]

To be honest, Usyk was never feared to the degree Golovkin was. Because of the different styles: Usyk may outpoint you, but in the worst case you'll lose a decision. This was a narrative. Only later it became more evident, that he'll beat you with a high pace and superior conditioning and you'll likely not make it to the final bell.. Still it did not look that threatening, while GGG was a destruction personified. And this fact worked to Usyk's advantage perfectly, because he was getting all those fights, while GGG had to settle for whoever was brave enough, while he was in his prime.

[AKAcronym]

To be honest, Usyk was never feared to the degree Golovkin was. Because of the different styles: Usyk may outpoint you, but in the worst case you'll lose a decision. This was a narrative. Only later it became more evident, that he'll beat you with a high pace and superior conditioning and you'll likely not make it to the final bell.. Still it did not look that threatening, while GGG was a destruction personified. And this fact worked to Usyk's advantage perfectly, because he was getting all those fights, while GGG had to settle for whoever was brave enough, while he was in his prime.

As I've mentioned before, Usyk was fortunate he was able to have a tournament in his division. Like Inoue, Taylor and Ward before him, they were afforded an opportunity to get to fight the best in their division, something Golovkin obviously wasn't able to do.

[JimRaynor]

1st fight was ruled a draw in which most felt GGG won.

Usyk have wins over an overrated AJ and a washed fury. you can make a case that AJ = gab rosado and washed fury = kell brook.

Gab rosa and Kell Brook.... really bro? Thats who you think is a better name than AJ or Fury? I'd like to know where you buy your drugs.

[JimRaynor]

bro, I said at the time Usyk fought them. they weren't the same fighters anymore... AJ was always overrated. and when usyk fought fury. that was a washed up fury. so if you factor all that in, AJ and fury are equivalent to rosado and kell Brook.

What do you mean they weren't the same fighters, the same fighters as what and when? AJ had all the belts minus the WBC, redeemed himself against Ruiz, and was coming off one of his most impressive looking victories in Pulev, he was also about 3 years younger than Usyk.

Tyson Fury was undefeated, the lineal champion, was considered the best heavyweight in the world and was also 3 years younger than Usyk. To say he was washed is equivalent to saying that Evander Holyfield was washed after his win over Bert Cooper.


At no point did Rosado and Kelly Brook come close to achieving what Fury and AJ have.

We’re only talking heavyweight, but Usyk also defeated, Bellew, Briedis, Hunter, Gassiev etc… GGG resume is solid but subpar when compared to Usyk, even if you give him back to back wins against Canelo.

[eco1]

LOL!! Usyk has been beating up on tomato cans!!! at least GGG have canelo on his resume who most thought he won the 1st fight.

And the second too.

[elfag]

Usyk is more skilled. GGG had heavier hands. head to head if they are the same size I would pick Usyk


Their resumes are also not even close. GGG's best win is a guy moving up from the lower division. Usyk's best wins have 20-40 pounds on him

[Butt stuff]

GGG probably one of my favourite fighters ever. He has an iron mindset, unbreakable will and total dedication to his craft. But didn’t have as much adaptability that Usyk possesses. Usyk can adjust to compete with any style, whereas Golovkin struggled against other boxer punchers with very close fights. Not to mention Usyk went undisputed in two divisions (though it was much easier for Usyk to get the fights).

To fall short in comparison to what I believe is an all time great in Usyk, is no shame at all. GGG would be around the top of the division at 160 in any era.

[Butt stuff]

Usyk is more skilled. GGG had heavier hands. head to head if they are the same size I would pick Usyk


Their resumes are also not even close. GGG's best win is a guy moving up from the lower division. Usyk's best wins have 20-40 pounds on him

I agree with the Alpha fäggot