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  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    I didn’t say that. Manny is surely not better than Floyd as we saw. He isn’t better than Roy. He is barely better than JMM as we saw when they fought.

    Bradley isn’t an ATG. As a reminder, he was a free agent that decided to take the easy road by signing with TR to fight Manny rather than take the harder road to fight the better boxer in Floyd, likely for more money.

    Now please answer the question-tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list?
    There's all time p4p lists that certainly have Manny ranked higher than Floyd, and they most certainly don't include Marquez or Bradley anywhere near the discussion

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      I didn’t say that. Manny is surely not better than Floyd as we saw. He isn’t better than Roy. He is barely better than JMM as we saw when they fought.


      Yes, I agree with you Pac s resume is much better than.Floyd's or jmms so is greater. Plus all common opponents with pac and floyd have agreed.

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      • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

        Yes, I agree with you Pac s resume is much better than.Floyd's or jmms so is greater. Plus all common opponents with pac and floyd have agreed.
        I didn’t say that either. Floyd has the best win and the 2nd best win- Manny and Canelo- when comparing resumes with Manny.

        Now please answer the question-tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          I didn’t say that either. Floyd has the best win and the 2nd best win- Manny and Canelo- when comparing resumes with Manny.
          Yes, I agree that pac is greater than everyone who beat him. Just like Ali is greater than everyone who beat him. I'm sure joe Louis is greater than marciano too, who best him. I suspect hopkins is greater than calzaghe too, which upsets me a bit, I like calzaghe
          Last edited by hugh grant; Yesterday, 02:14 PM.

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          • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

            Yes, I agree that pac is greater than everyone who beat him. Just like Ali is greater than everyone who beat him. I'm sure joe Louis is greater than marciano too, who best him. I suspect hopkins is greater than calzaghe too, which upsets me a bit, I like calzaghe
            He is not greater than Floyd. Floyd is ranked higher, sold more, and oh yeah beat him.

            Manny moved up more because he was lighter.

            Ali is better than all the guys he lost to. Manny isn’t Ali. He isn’t greater or better than Floyd.

            Now please answer the question-tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list?
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; Yesterday, 02:16 PM.

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            • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

              Yes, I agree that pac is greater than everyone who beat him. Just like Ali is greater than everyone who beat him. I'm sure joe Louis is greater than marciano too, who best him. I suspect hopkins is greater than calzaghe too, which upsets me a bit, I like calzaghe
              I think Bernard fought better comp than Joe

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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                He is not greater than Floyd. Floyd is ranked higher,

                ?
                By who and don't just say some legit boxing historians because that is bogus

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  He is not greater than Floyd. Floyd is ranked higher, sold more, and oh yeah beat him.

                  Manny moved up more because he was lighter.

                  Ali is better than all the guys he lost to. Manny isn’t Ali. He isn’t greater or better than Floyd.

                  ?
                  Usyk is greater than floyd, let alone pac, who is oldest WW champ ever.
                  Joe Louis is greater than everyone he lost to, even greater than the unbeaten great marciano. RJJ is greater than everyone he lost to.

                  Moral of story, Floyd's not in pacs class

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                  • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                    I think Bernard fought better comp than Joe
                    Your not wrong, just like pac fought better competition than floyd. Calzaghes unbeaten record isn't enough to compensate, just like Floyd's isn't enough to compensate for lack of comp and risks compared to pacs

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                    • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                      By who and don't just say some legit boxing historians because that is bogus
                      Boxing fans have pac above floyd and boxing fans are ultimately judge and jury

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