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  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



    RJJ was much older than Calzaghe. Floyd is older than Manny so that BS will not work.

    None of them are better than Floyd. You think Manny is better than Calzaghe, Roy and JMM so Floyd beating Manny is the best win out of all of them according to you.

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    Pac was much smaller than floyd, plus much older in boxing years, 70 fights compared to 46 fights for floyd. RJJ was only 39 years old which for heavyweights is nothing. Calzaghe best a heavyweight essentially which is better than floyd beating flyweight who moved up 8 divisions.

    Yes, pac is greater than floyd, calzaghe and rjj I agree with you. As pac moved up 8 divisions. If John Ruiz best rjj it wouldn't make John ruiz greater than rjj, as rjj moved up 5 divisions. So why does floyd beating pac mean anything?
    Last edited by hugh grant; Yesterday, 09:17 AM.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      He changed his name once he beat the cash cow.

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      That's irrelevant

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      • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

        Pac was much smaller than floyd, plus much older in boxing years, 70 fights compared to 46 fights for floyd. RJJ was only 39 years old which for heavyweights is nothing. Calzaghe best a heavyweight essentially which is better than floyd beating flyweight who moved up 8 divisions.

        Yes, pac is greater than floyd, calzaghe and rjj I agree with you. As pac moved up 8 divisions. If John Ruiz best rjj it wouldn't make John ruiz greater than rjj, as rjj moved up 5 divisions. So why does floyd beating pac mean anything?
        Answer the the question -tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list?

        They both fought at 147. They were the same weight when they fought. Floyd is taller and had a longer reach.

        Floyd was older . Plain and simple.

        RJJ wasn’t a hwt when Calzaghe beat him. He had come back down in weight.

        Lmfao. You think Manny is greater than Rjj and Calzaghe. That means Floyd had the best win in beating Manny.

        Now you’re pretending beating Manny means nothing. If that is the case, why did you have him on the list of boxers Floyd needed to beat that you deleted?

        You’re a bad liar.

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        • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

          That's irrelevant
          He changed his name once he beat the cash cow.

          Yes Floyd wanted money. But he was honest about it and made the money because he kept winning.

          Manny kept avoiding the fight, duping his idiot ball smokin Stans like you into believing he wanted to fight the best in the world for the challenge and the honor.

          All he wanted was the money from it. He showed that with how he fought.

          Don’t get mad at me.​

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          • [QUOTE=The Big Dunn;n32505484]

            He changed his name once he beat the cash cow.

            /QUOTE]

            Thats irrelevant.

            Post Hatton, Floyd wasn't fighting unless the risk was 30% or less, in addition to having every a side advantage.

            He needed low to no risk high reward.

            I'd put Canelo @ 35% risk but thats as high as a fighter who fought a 0-0 mma fighter would go
            Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 10:03 AM.

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            • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



              Manny kept avoiding the fight, duping his idiot ball smokin Stans like you into believing he wanted to fight the best in the world for the challenge and the honor.

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              Lol. We all know Floyd was scared.

              It showed in his demeanor.

              Even his pops told him he was scared of a shopworn Manny in the ring.

              But we here to chop it up about Floyd/Usyk and here you go flipping it over to Manny.

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              • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                Lol. We all know Floyd was scared.

                It showed in his demeanor.

                Even his pops told him he was scared of a shopworn Manny in the ring.

                But we here to chop it up about Floyd/Usyk and here you go flipping it over to Manny.
                He offered Manny the fight 3 times. That isn’t someone who is scared.

                Even you and the other Stans that want to believe this know That BS was squashed when Floyd walked up to him in Miami.

                Floyd fought just hard enough to dominate a guy there solely for a check.

                Yeah I figured you’d finally want to get back to the thread topic since you can’t dance around what I posted.

                That is how great Floyd is and another reason why I would have him ahead of Usyk- he made an ATG, 2nd best of his era, quit and stop fighting, content to lose the fight just to get a Check.

                For as great as Usyk imo, I haven’t seen him do that.

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  He offered Manny the fight 3 times.
                  Bruh that means he didn't make the fight 3 times.

                  I told you Floyd is his own boss until it's time to be accountable for not making fights

                  You a half azzed bs artist you can get that off with your fellow Floyd boys but not here son
                  Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 10:21 AM.

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                  • [QUOTE=djtmal;n32505490]
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                    He changed his name once he beat the cash cow.

                    /QUOTE]

                    Thats irrelevant.

                    Post Hatton, Floyd wasn't fighting unless the risk was 30% or less, in addition to having every a side advantage.

                    He needed low to no risk high reward.

                    I'd put Canelo @ 35% risk but thats as high as a fighter who fought a 0-0 mma fighter would go
                    You can make up whatever you wish.

                    All the opponents came to win other than Manny. They were all risky but Floyd is an ATG, one of the top 2-3 defensively, that he was able to minimize the risk with that skill set.

                    Manny, on the other hand, was a very weak defensive fighter that couldn’t do same.

                    All of them, including Conor McGregor, an MMA fighter making his debut, fought harder, with more courage and honor than Manny.

                    Manny got his check like he wanted. How much did you get for washing his nutsack??

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                    • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                      Bruh that means he didn't make the fight 3 times.

                      I told you Floyd is his own boss until it's time to be accountable for not making fights
                      That is how great Floyd is and another reason why I would have him ahead of Usyk- he made an ATG, 2nd best of his era, quit and stop fighting, content to lose the fight just to get a Check.

                      For as great as Usyk imo, I haven’t seen him do that.​

                      No that means Manny turned each offer down.

                      Floyd being his own boss means he can make offers to anyone.

                      That doesn’t mean he can make them accept it or he has to give unworthy opponents more than they are worth.

                      Manny made the decisions. Hold him accountable.

                      Now I thought you wanted to talk about Floyd v Usyk.

                      Make up your nutsack washing mind.
                      Last edited by The Big Dunn; Yesterday, 10:23 AM.

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