Comparing Usyk to Ali is laughable.

[famicommander]

He factually won the fight. I was acknowledging the official result which apparently have no issue with, yet you’re in like page 10 of this thread desperate for argument because you have no social life beyond your keyboard.

You never actually make any arguments. You just repeat your nonsense claims over and over again and attack people. My original point remains unchallenged -- that pretending like the Norton fights set Ali apart from Usyk makes you look like a clown because Norton deserved 3 wins in those 3 fights.

You can say I just like to argue all you want but you haven't actually refuted any arguments. You just keep missing the point.

[JakeTheBoxer]

In no particular order -
Ali
Holmes
Lenny
Holy
Wlad
Vit
Bowe
Tua
Foreman
Frazier
Spinks
Louis
Norton
Lyle
Shavers
M Tyson (glorified bully)
Marciano
J Ruiz (love him or loathe him, homeboy's resume is sick !)
Moorer
Morrison
Valuev
Berbick
Tucker

Who would Usyk realistically beat ?
Does his resume stand up to any/all of these guys ?

Honestly, Usyk would beat the most of them.

prove me I am wrong. You can´t so..

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You never actually make any arguments. You just repeat your nonsense claims over and over again and attack people. My original point remains unchallenged -- that pretending like the Norton fights set Ali apart from Usyk makes you look like a clown because Norton deserved 3 wins in those 3 fights.

You can say I just like to argue all you want but you haven't actually refuted any arguments. You just keep missing the point.

I said Ali has beaten 7 HOF’ers. Which he did. Factually. I acknowledged the official results i.e Norton x2. I didn’t express any personal opinion just that Ali beat Norton twice. Which OFFICIALLY he did.

You then took exception to it because you’re one sad little man, who’s desperate to create arguments on a boxing forum. Again, what was your issue with me listing an official result? And where did I express any personal opinion on the outcome of those fights?

[Dr Z]

Remember when you claimed Hrgovic would beat Usyk? Good times.

Let them fight. Then we will see who is right.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Let them fight. Then we will see who is right.

Hrgovic got dog walked by the guy Usyk just blitzed in 5 rounds.

Are you seriously saying Hrgovic beats Usyk?

[famicommander]

I said Ali has beaten 7 HOF’ers. Which he did. Factually. I acknowledged the official results i.e Norton x2. I didn’t express any personal opinion just that Ali beat Norton twice. Which OFFICIALLY he did.

You then took exception to it because you’re one sad little man, who’s desperate to create arguments on a boxing forum. Again, what was your issue with me listing an official result? And where did I express any personal opinion on the outcome of those fights?

For the tenth time

You made a topic saying Ali is better than Usyk, then listed the Norton fights which he deserved to lose 3 times as a reason why. That's no different that a Canelo fanboy listing the draw and robbery win over Golovkin as a reason why Canelo is great, rather than digging into Canelo's legitimate resume and making an intelligent case.

You can't pretend like you didn't insinuate that the Norton fights are part of the reason why Ali is greater than Usyk. That's what you did, and that's what I took issue with in plain English multiple times.

This really, really isn't complicated.

[paulf]

There is nothing more fruitless and pointless than debating "who is greater" with two fighters from different eras.

Each era builds on the prior generations successes and learns from its failures.

There is no Usyk without Ali.

[Dr Z]

Hrgovic got dog walked by the guy Usyk just blitzed in 5 rounds.

Are you seriously saying Hrgovic beats Usyk?

Well as long as Hrgovic takes his training seriously which he clearly did not after rolling Dubios in the gym only to see Dubois chin and guts hold up that night, and his stamina darined do to poor training... I would say it's a 50 / 50 fight for Hrgovic next year when Usyk is 39.

DDD took Hrgovic's bombs but not Usky's? Sometimes boxing logic does not apply.

But enough on that this is your thread on comparing Usyk to Ali is laughable.

Yes you can compare all time greats in the same division to each other.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

For the tenth time

You made a topic saying Ali is better than Usyk, then listed the Norton fights which he deserved to lose 3 times as a reason why. That's no different that a Canelo fanboy listing the draw and robbery win over Golovkin as a reason why Canelo is great, rather than digging into Canelo's legitimate resume and making an intelligent case.

You can't pretend like you didn't insinuate that the Norton fights are part of the reason why Ali is greater than Usyk. That's what you did, and that's what I took issue with in plain English multiple times.

This really, really isn't complicated.

I listed Ali’s accomplishments, which factually include two wins over Norton. Acknowledging the result, no personal opinion, just listing his resume. I.E Ali’s overall resume is better than Usyk’s overall resume, and Ali’s resume includes two wins over Ken Norton, so why wouldn’t I acknowledge them when I’m listing his wins over HOF’er? How incoherent are you?

Apparently you have no issue with this yet you’re here in page 11. Get a life you sad bas****.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Well as long as Hrgovic takes his training seriously which he clearly did not after rolling Dubios in the gym only to see Dubois chin and guts hold up that night, and his stamina darined do to poor training... I would say it's a 50 / 50 fight for Hrgovic next year when Usyk is 39.

DDD took Hrgovic's bombs but not Usky's? Sometimes boxing logic does not apply.

But enough on that this is your thread on comparing Usyk to Ali is laughable.

Yes you can compare all time greats in the same division to each other.

Hrgovic is very average. You know it deep down. The whole world saw it vs Dubois. Usyk beats him easily.