Comparing Usyk to Ali is laughable.

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  • famicommander
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    #101
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

    He factually won the fight. I was acknowledging the official result which apparently have no issue with, yet you’re in like page 10 of this thread desperate for argument because you have no social life beyond your keyboard.
    You never actually make any arguments. You just repeat your nonsense claims over and over again and attack people. My original point remains unchallenged -- that pretending like the Norton fights set Ali apart from Usyk makes you look like a clown because Norton deserved 3 wins in those 3 fights.

    You can say I just like to argue all you want but you haven't actually refuted any arguments. You just keep missing the point.

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      #102
      Originally posted by TheProudLunatic
      In no particular order -
      Ali
      Holmes
      Lenny
      Holy
      Wlad
      Vit
      Bowe
      Tua
      Foreman
      Frazier
      Spinks
      Louis
      Norton
      Lyle
      Shavers
      M Tyson (glorified bully)
      Marciano
      J Ruiz (love him or loathe him, homeboy's resume is sick !)
      Moorer
      Morrison
      Valuev
      Berbick
      Tucker

      Who would Usyk realistically beat ?
      Does his resume stand up to any/all of these guys ?​
      Honestly, Usyk would beat the most of them.

      prove me I am wrong. You canīt so..

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #103
        Originally posted by famicommander

        You never actually make any arguments. You just repeat your nonsense claims over and over again and attack people. My original point remains unchallenged -- that pretending like the Norton fights set Ali apart from Usyk makes you look like a clown because Norton deserved 3 wins in those 3 fights.

        You can say I just like to argue all you want but you haven't actually refuted any arguments. You just keep missing the point.
        I said Ali has beaten 7 HOF’ers. Which he did. Factually. I acknowledged the official results i.e Norton x2. I didn’t express any personal opinion just that Ali beat Norton twice. Which OFFICIALLY he did.

        You then took exception to it because you’re one sad little man, who’s desperate to create arguments on a boxing forum. Again, what was your issue with me listing an official result? And where did I express any personal opinion on the outcome of those fights?

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        • Dr Z
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          #104
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

          Remember when you claimed Hrgovic would beat Usyk? Good times.
          Let them fight. Then we will see who is right.

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            #105
            Originally posted by Dr Z

            Let them fight. Then we will see who is right.
            Hrgovic got dog walked by the guy Usyk just blitzed in 5 rounds.

            Are you seriously saying Hrgovic beats Usyk?

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            • famicommander
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              #106
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              I said Ali has beaten 7 HOF’ers. Which he did. Factually. I acknowledged the official results i.e Norton x2. I didn’t express any personal opinion just that Ali beat Norton twice. Which OFFICIALLY he did.

              You then took exception to it because you’re one sad little man, who’s desperate to create arguments on a boxing forum. Again, what was your issue with me listing an official result? And where did I express any personal opinion on the outcome of those fights?
              For the tenth time

              You made a topic saying Ali is better than Usyk, then listed the Norton fights which he deserved to lose 3 times as a reason why. That's no different that a Canelo fanboy listing the draw and robbery win over Golovkin as a reason why Canelo is great, rather than digging into Canelo's legitimate resume and making an intelligent case.

              You can't pretend like you didn't insinuate that the Norton fights are part of the reason why Ali is greater than Usyk. That's what you did, and that's what I took issue with in plain English multiple times.

              This really, really isn't complicated.
              Last edited by famicommander; 07-21-2025, 02:05 PM.

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                #107
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                Hrgovic got dog walked by the guy Usyk just blitzed in 5 rounds.

                Are you seriously saying Hrgovic beats Usyk?


                Well as long as Hrgovic takes his training seriously which he clearly did not after rolling Dubios in the gym only to see Dubois chin and guts hold up that night, and his stamina darined do to poor training... I would say it's a 50 / 50 fight for Hrgovic next year when Usyk is 39.

                DDD took Hrgovic's bombs but not Usky's? Sometimes boxing logic does not apply.

                But enough on that this is your thread on comparing Usyk to Ali is laughable.

                Yes you can compare all time greats in the same division to each other.


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                • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by famicommander

                  For the tenth time

                  You made a topic saying Ali is better than Usyk, then listed the Norton fights which he deserved to lose 3 times as a reason why. That's no different that a Canelo fanboy listing the draw and robbery win over Golovkin as a reason why Canelo is great, rather than digging into Canelo's legitimate resume and making an intelligent case.

                  You can't pretend like you didn't insinuate that the Norton fights are part of the reason why Ali is greater than Usyk. That's what you did, and that's what I took issue with in plain English multiple times.

                  This really, really isn't complicated.
                  I listed Ali’s accomplishments, which factually include two wins over Norton. Acknowledging the result, no personal opinion, just listing his resume. I.E Ali’s overall resume is better than Usyk’s overall resume, and Ali’s resume includes two wins over Ken Norton, so why wouldn’t I acknowledge them when I’m listing his wins over HOF’er? How incoherent are you?

                  Apparently you have no issue with this yet you’re here in page 11. Get a life you sad bas****.

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                  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Dr Z



                    Well as long as Hrgovic takes his training seriously which he clearly did not after rolling Dubios in the gym only to see Dubois chin and guts hold up that night, and his stamina darined do to poor training... I would say it's a 50 / 50 fight for Hrgovic next year when Usyk is 39.

                    DDD took Hrgovic's bombs but not Usky's? Sometimes boxing logic does not apply.

                    But enough on that this is your thread on comparing Usyk to Ali is laughable.

                    Yes you can compare all time greats in the same division to each other.


                    Hrgovic is very average. You know it deep down. The whole world saw it vs Dubois. Usyk beats him easily.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                      Honestly, Usyk would beat the most of them.

                      prove me I am wrong. You canīt so..
                      He'd whoop everyone of them with ease but lose to Lennox and maybe to Vitali, and im not really even sure about this because Usyk is so crafty and will adjust to anything.

                      Usyk is one of the greats

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