Comments Thread For: What experts think of Turki Alalshikh?s no-boxing-PPVs declaration

[Oregonian]

So EVERYONE tha Leaves Top Rank makes more?

If Bob was Greedy, New Talent and Established Fighters wouldn't sing with him. Make up your mind of who he is taking advantage of. He has to keep market price in order to compete with other promoters. DIDN'T Crawford resing with Bob instead of PBC when his contract expired the first time? That means he is paying them well enough to stay. Why didn't Beterbiev stay with PBC if Bob is Greedy. Why didn't Mungia stay with Golden Boy or go to another Promoter other than Top Rank? Lets here your excuse.

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“My excuses”? Really? How about you listen to the “excuses” of ALL the guys that left Bob? Floyd paid Bob $750k to get out of his contract. Why?

[Oregonian]

You are conveniently only looking at what the event ENDED UP doing in revenue. Golden Boy gave Floyd the EXACT SAME $10 million guarantee that Top Rank offered.


https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/n...ory?id=2865349

"De La Hoya was guaranteed $23.3 million and Mayweather $10 million for the fight. With the overwhelming success of the event, De La Hoya could take home upwards of $50 million with Mayweather earning around $20 million."

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Ok, so why did all those guys leave Top Rank if they were getting paid a fair amount? They already said why but maybe you have a different reason as to why the left.

[OnePunch]

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Ok, so why did all those guys leave Top Rank if they were getting paid a fair amount? They already said why but maybe you have a different reason as to why the left.

Fighters at that level leave because they are no longer at a point in their career where they need development or guidance. At that point, all the heavy lifting has already been done, and they basically need only logistical support and access to opponents. Nothing wrong with a fighter exploring other options once their contract is fulfilled. So they leave because maybe they think they can negotiate better terms with someone else, or they leave to gain easier access to specific opponents. And some leave because of spite. They resent the fact that after years of hard work and expertise, the promoter is actually now making a profit off their fights. They get amnesia about the hundreds of thousands of dollars that promoter spent to develop them to that point. For some reason they feel they are being cheated because the promoter is actually getting a return on their years of investing in that fighter.

[deathofaclown]

We've heard it all before about no PPV..that was DAZN's while selling point when they started. Clearly it didn't last long. So let's see if it does this time

[M312]

I'm not sure why DAZN didn't offer a huge discount to their PPVs if you were a subscriber. That would have surely moved numbers.

E.g. $70 for the PPV, or $20 if you are a subscriber for a year.

Then you are incentivised to subscribe.

Anyway, no PPV is clearly better. Not quite enough to stop me streaming, but better than adding PPV on top.

[Oregonian]

Fighters at that level leave because they are no longer at a point in their career where they need development or guidance. At that point, all the heavy lifting has already been done, and they basically need only logistical support and access to opponents. Nothing wrong with a fighter exploring other options once their contract is fulfilled. So they leave because maybe they think they can negotiate better terms with someone else, or they leave to gain easier access to specific opponents. And some leave because of spite. They resent the fact that after years of hard work and expertise, the promoter is actually now making a profit off their fights. They get amnesia about the hundreds of thousands of dollars that promoter spent to develop them to that point. For some reason they feel they are being cheated because the promoter is actually getting a return on their years of investing in that fighter.

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Some of what you wrote maybe true. However, these same promoters are also known to nickel and dime their fighters.
They lavish you with gifts and then deduct all that from your purse. Tyson assaulted Don King for that once. And Don King is a convicted felon.

Take a look at Don King’s shenanigans going back decades.

https://www.complex.com/sports/a/complex/a-history-of-don-kings-grimiest-moments

Bob the grifter is no different.

[boxingitis]

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“My excuses”? Really? How about you listen to the “excuses” of ALL the guys that left Bob? Floyd paid Bob $750k to get out of his contract. Why?

Beterbiev, Hithenson and Matias left PBC,
Berlanga left Matchroom,
Mungia left Golden Boy.

Boxers leave promoters all the time. They might do better or worst. Nothing new.

[Oregonian]

Beterbiev, Hithenson and Matias left PBC,
Berlanga left Matchroom,
Mungia left Golden Boy.

Boxers leave promoters all the time. They might do better or worst. Nothing new.

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While this is true, none of these guys disparage their promoters except maybe Canelo and Ryan Garcia. They also leave because they are offered better deals.