Comments Thread For: What experts think of Turki Alalshikh?s no-boxing-PPVs declaration

[Butt stuff]

The Saudis are only here for a short time not a long time. You can tell there is a bigger goal than just throwing money at boxing and all things related while losing money in the process. Once that goal is accomplished, they are out of here. As for me, they 've given us fights that would have never happened in my lifetime so for that I thank Turki and will continue to enjoy the ride for however long it lasts.

I think it's to the contrary, they're making big losses on the sport so that they're able to gain control of it. They now have a platform in DAZN, and fighters clambering over each other to get on Turki's shows.

In a short amount of time they've almost eliminated the need for promoters (in the current sense of a promoter) and being real, it's the big promoters that control the sport. When you are the last one left as the dust clears, you are the one who decides the terms. They'll basically have a monopoly/stronghold on the sport where they can begin to charge whatever they want.

All they need is someone to actually promote/market their shows properly without it being an entity that will take a % of the profits.

[Hands of Stone]

I think it's to the contrary, they're making big losses on the sport so that they're able to gain control of it. They now have a platform in DAZN, and fighters clambering over each other to get on Turki's shows.

In a short amount of time they've almost eliminated the need for promoters (in the current sense of a promoter) and being real, it's the big promoters that control the sport. When you are the last one left as the dust clears, you are the one who decides the terms. They'll basically have a monopoly/stronghold on the sport where they can begin to charge whatever they want.

All they need is someone to actually promote/market their shows properly without it being an entity that will take a % of the profits.

Fair point. Though I would argue that Boxing may just be the lowest hanging fruit for them at the moment to get to bigger mainstream goals. They 've tried their hands at other sports and even though, they've pumped in money and those sports have gladly taken the money, they aren't ceding control easily as boxing has done all in the interest of seeing the fights we want and fighters been paid handsomely. They understand that with Boxing not having a regulator, it can easily be manipulated and captured along with all the verticals that will inch them closer to the takeover attempt of the other mainstream goals and who knows maybe by then, Boxing will be less important to them and relegated to what it was before. But like I said, I 'll enjoy it for however it lasts.

[TyrantT316]

I just don't see what Turkis doing being long-term. Eventually we'll see a headline saying either "Turki's Out!" or "What happened to Turki?" ...meaning either he'll just drop his financial support after achieving whatever goal he wants or we'll see less and less "Turki Fights" and start wondering where his involvement is...only to find out he'ls investing his money elsewhere...

When that happens, the traditional Boxing model will be trying to pickup the pieces

[SteveM]

The Saudis are only here for a short time not a long time. You can tell there is a bigger goal than just throwing money at boxing and all things related while losing money in the process. Once that goal is accomplished, they are out of here. As for me, they 've given us fights that would have never happened in my lifetime so for that I thank Turki and will continue to enjoy the ride for however long it lasts.

They are using sport to create a presence in the eyes of the average Western citizen. It's called building a brand. It takes time and is a neverending process. If it wasn't you wouldn't see Toyota, Mercedes Ford adverts on TV, in glossy magazines, Superbowl half time adverts etc.
Saudi Arabia has decided to rebrand as an attractive tourist destination. This is quite a hard sell and a competitive market. Turki is here for the long run.

[SteveM]

I just don't see what Turkis doing being long-term. Eventually we'll see a headline saying either "Turki's Out!" or "What happened to Turki?" ...meaning either he'll just drop his financial support after achieving whatever goal he wants or we'll see less and less "Turki Fights" and start wondering where his involvement is...only to find out he'ls investing his money elsewhere...

When that happens, the traditional Boxing model will be trying to pickup the pieces

If that happens then we will have seen this generation of fighters in great matchups. Stevenson Kovalev was a huge miss, better to see the fights than wonder "what if?"

If Turku vanishes then for a vanishingly short time they'll be a vacuum; lack of fights. But a vacuum is always filled and new promoters will enter to start the whole process again

[Butt stuff]

Fair point. Though I would argue that Boxing may just be the lowest hanging fruit for them at the moment to get to bigger mainstream goals. They 've tried their hands at other sports and even though, they've pumped in money and those sports have gladly taken the money, they aren't ceding control easily as boxing has done all in the interest of seeing the fights we want and fighters been paid handsomely. They understand that with Boxing not having a regulator, it can easily be manipulated and captured along with all the verticals that will inch them closer to the takeover attempt of the other mainstream goals and who knows maybe by then, Boxing will be less important to them and relegated to what it was before. But like I said, I 'll enjoy it for however it lasts.

Yeah it’s pretty embarrassing for boxing how easily it was taken over it’s barely a sport.

[Oldskoolg]

If and when Sheik Moneybags and the Kingdom bail, who’s gonna pick up the pieces?

Bingo

[Oldskoolg]

I think it's to the contrary, they're making big losses on the sport so that they're able to gain control of it. They now have a platform in DAZN, and fighters clambering over each other to get on Turki's shows.

In a short amount of time they've almost eliminated the need for promoters (in the current sense of a promoter) and being real, it's the big promoters that control the sport. When you are the last one left as the dust clears, you are the one who decides the terms. They'll basically have a monopoly/stronghold on the sport where they can begin to charge whatever they want.

All they need is someone to actually promote/market their shows properly without it being an entity that will take a % of the profits.

Their biggest fight will be on Netflix. I think their smaller shows will be on Dazn

[Jrock56]

All I know is if Bam beats Cafu and Martinez 5 months apart and after beating all the champs and contenders that he’s beat, he deserves to be # 1 Pound per pound. No will have even close to a resume like that.

[hitmanjosh]

All I know is if Bam beats Cafu and Martinez 5 months apart and after beating all the champs and contenders that he’s beat, he deserves to be # 1 Pound per pound. No will have even close to a resume like that.

You crazy as hell, he light and beating lightweight non known fighters people don't even know who the hell he is that don't follow boxing, in fact if Trump see him he's being deported!