Comments Thread For: Edgar Berlanga 'didn?t want to be in the ring,' says Tim Bradley

[Left Hook Louie]

If we’re talking about a “heel” getting lumped-up, then the Broner Effect would be a good term. Guys like Ali and Mayweather played it up to the tune of millions of dollars. But Ali did it to sell tickets, Floyd seemed to embody the role much more — and both got away with it.

Yeah, Ali and Mayweather were more transparent about just trying to sell tickets.
Ali, for his part, was much smarter and more sophisticated as a self-promoter and a person, and I wouldn't apply the Broner Effect to his antics.
The only thing that seemed cringe, to me, about Ali's personal style was when he got all racial with Joe Frazier. I don't know much else about it but it seemed unnecessary and took a fair amount of luster off of Ali's reputation as a champion of (perceived) just causes. That's my take, anyway.
Mayweather was just so good at his craft that I didn't hate on him so much.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Yeah, Ali and Mayweather were more transparent about just trying to sell tickets.
Ali, for his part, was much smarter and more sophisticated as a self-promoter and a person, and I wouldn't apply the Broner Effect to his antics.
The only thing that seemed cringe, to me, about Ali's personal style was when he got all racial with Joe Frazier. I don't know much else about it but it seemed unnecessary and took a fair amount of luster off of Ali's reputation as a champion of (perceived) just causes. That's my take, anyway.
Mayweather was just so good at his craft that I didn't hate on him so much.

Ali gets a lot of criticism these days for the nature of his rhetoric with Frazier. But you can’t apply today’s sensibilities to the past. It’s just the way things were back then. A lot of movies and TV shows from the seventies display things that would make younger people cringe these days. That was Ali’s heyday, that’s where he was coming from. But years later Muhammad was regretful for some of the things he said about Joe — and probably a lot more, besides. If you live long enough, you’ll have plenty of regrets about things you should’ve done and things you shouldn’t have. Ali was a man. A great man, but a man nonetheless.

[Left Hook Louie]

Ali gets a lot of criticism these days for the nature of his rhetoric with Frazier. But you can’t apply today’s sensibilities to the past. It’s just the way things were back then. A lot of movies and TV shows from the seventies display things that would make younger people cringe these days. That was Ali’s heyday, that’s where he was coming from. But years later Muhammad was regretful for some of the things he said about Joe — and probably a lot more, besides. If you live long enough, you’ll have plenty of regrets about things you should’ve done and things you shouldn’t have. Ali was a man. A great man, but a man nonetheless.

Well said, Cub*a*n*GuyNYC.
I like watching reruns of old shows.
A couple of months ago I was slack-jawed at the dialog in a Kojak episode (set in your NYC, of course) where he tries to mentor a black teenager and keep him from getting into trouble.
That script would never, ever get greenlit today.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Well said, Cub*a*n*GuyNYC.
I like watching reruns of old shows.
A couple of months ago I was slack-jawed at the dialog in a Kojak episode (set in your NYC, of course) where he tries to mentor a black teenager and keep him from getting into trouble.
That script would never, ever get greenlit today.

Lol That and much, much more. Watch Blazing Saddles some day. Haha

And thank you, sir.

[BustedKnuckles]

That’s some interesting insight: Bradley thought the fight was over before it started when he detected fear in Berlanga’s face. Don’t know if that’s true or not; but when you talk big prior to a fight, it increases the pressure to deliver. That much is certain. It’s possible Edgar was feeling the weight of that going in.

When Sheeraz was jabbing straight down the middle, between Berlangas guard, and landing at will, and snapping that head, i figured it wasnt going to happen for him. Whenever you see that particular situation, it usually goes bad for the guy unable to defend from straight punches.

[CubanGuyNYC]

When Sheeraz was jabbing straight down the middle, between Berlangas guard, and landing at will, and snapping that head, i figured it wasnt going to happen for him. Whenever you see that particular situation, it usually goes bad for the guy unable to defend from straight punches.

For sure. I didn’t watch the full fight, only highlights, but Berlanga really looked lost when Sheeraz was unloading on him. And boy did he unload. Edgar literally didn’t know what was hitting him. A better fighter might’ve caught Hamzah between haymakers, and even KOed him. But again, it was satisfying to watch. Sheeraz appears to be all class.

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

For sure. I didn’t watch the full fight, only highlights, but Berlanga really looked lost when Sheeraz was unloading on him. And boy did he unload. Edgar literally didn’t know what was hitting him. A better fighter might’ve caught Hamzah between haymakers, and even KOed him. But again, it was satisfying to watch. Sheeraz appears to be all class.

All of the fights are up on The Ring YouTube page if you want to watch them.

[CubanGuyNYC]

All of the fights are up on The Ring YouTube page if you want to watch them.

Thanks, bro.

[richardt]

Berlanga had a spreadsheet of his whole plan all the way to heavyweight and Sheeraz tore it into shreds. Being hit with bombs has a way to make a fighter not want to be there when that doesn't match their fantasy. Berlanga was fine till he got punched hard in the face and fell down and bloodied. He just knew when he was walking to the ring knowing he had this big check his mouth wrote that his ass couldn't cash.

[HisExcellency]

This FRUITY dance on fight night tells me otherwise!

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