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  • Southpawology
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    #11
    Berlanga actually wasnt doing bad up until he got caught, the rounds were competitive and his jab was landing nice on sheeraz

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    • turnedup
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      #12
      All week long Edgar including at the pal charity event kept talking about his opponent choices after sheeraz, I’ve said this over and over again. He viewed this as tune up against a guy who he thought he’d walk through based on the Adames fight and he went asked for the fight, wasn’t sheeraz, wasn’t turki, this fool himself picked sheeraz out if the options out there. This was a cherry pick gone horribly wrong considering the pick turned out to be more dog than cherry.

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      • Left Hook Louie
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        #13
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC

        The mental game is huge in sports. I love getting some insight with regards to that. Edgar doesn’t seem the type that would bounce back well. That loss was a tough one. Could be wrong, of course.
        Boxing promotional theatrics aside, Berlanga - as a young man - seems to be very immature. Contrast his behavior at the final press conference last Thursday with the composure displayed by Sheeraz, Puello, Matias, and Zepeda.

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          #14
          Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC

          Wow! You really took me back with that one! Baret was from my old neighborhood in Washington Heights, in upper-Manhattan. Haven’t thought about that guy in decades — probably since he lost to Starling. Lol I have a recollection of being at my friend’s sixth-floor apartment on 175th street. I happened to be looking out the window, and caught sight of Jose standing next to his sports car (I believe it was a Camaro or Firebird). This was 1982 — I was 16 then — and I remember noting how skinny his legs looked. Lol Funny the things you remember…and so strange to see that name after so many years. Anyway…it’s a good comparison. Baret seemed so promising. He was knocking everyone out. I recall watching one of his fights on TV. But that first loss sent his career down the chute.
          Berlanga reminds me so much of Baret. Crushing nonamers and then stepping up and getting beat. Alex Stewart was another Felt Forum guy who met the same fate. Those were the days! I loved going there for the fights. Eddie Gregg, James Broad, Barry "the fighting postman Funches". Good times!

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            #15
            Originally posted by Left Hook Louie

            Boxing promotional theatrics aside, Berlanga - as a young man - seems to be very immature. Contrast his behavior at the final press conference last Thursday with the composure displayed by Sheeraz, Puello, Matias, and Zepeda.
            Yeah, I’m sure some of what he does is for promotional purposes, but Berlanga seems to believe too much of his own bullsh it. That’s why I enjoyed a measure of satisfaction with the nature of his comeuppance.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Alan Smithee

              Berlanga reminds me so much of Baret. Crushing nonamers and then stepping up and getting beat. Alex Stewart was another Felt Forum guy who met the same fate. Those were the days! I loved going there for the fights. Eddie Gregg, James Broad, Barry "the fighting postman Funches". Good times!
              One can’t help but wonder about Canelo now. I don’t think Berlanga’s demise proves anything about Ginger, but it definitely raises questions.

              And now that you mention the Felt Forum, I once met Mark Breland during a Luther Vandross concert there. I was at the pay phones in the tunnel during the intermission, and recognized him. I reached out and shook his hand. I still recall how small and delicate his hand felt in mine, almost like a girl’s. And I’m only 5’7”!

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              • Left Hook Louie
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                #17
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC

                Yeah, I’m sure some of what he does is for promotional purposes, but Berlanga seems to believe too much of his own bullsh it. That’s why I enjoyed a measure of satisfaction with the nature of his comeuppance.
                Exactly.
                Is there a term or word to describe this?
                I would call it the Broner Effect wherein a boxer plays the heel
                and creates a level of fan interest in the fight if only to see the schmuck
                get rocked and/or stopped.
                In my years as a fan, Hamed, Mayorga, and Broner have been the standouts.
                Credit to Barrera, Maidana, and Mosley for playing their parts so well.

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                • CubanGuyNYC
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Louie

                  Exactly.
                  Is there a term or word to describe this?
                  I would call it the Broner Effect wherein a boxer plays the heel
                  and creates a level of fan interest in the fight if only to see the schmuck
                  get rocked and/or stopped.
                  In my years as a fan, Hamed, Mayorga, and Broner have been the standouts.
                  Credit to Barrera, Maidana, and Mosley for playing their parts so well.
                  If we’re talking about a “heel” getting lumped-up, then the Broner Effect would be a good term. Guys like Ali and Mayweather played it up to the tune of millions of dollars. But Ali did it to sell tickets, Floyd seemed to embody the role much more — and both got away with it.

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                    #19
                    Must have been Puerto Rican rum​

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                    • Left Hook Louie
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC

                      If we’re talking about a “heel” getting lumped-up, then the Broner Effect would be a good term. Guys like Ali and Mayweather played it up to the tune of millions of dollars. But Ali did it to sell tickets, Floyd seemed to embody the role much more — and both got away with it.
                      Yeah, Ali and Mayweather were more transparent about just trying to sell tickets.
                      Ali, for his part, was much smarter and more sophisticated as a self-promoter and a person, and I wouldn't apply the Broner Effect to his antics.
                      The only thing that seemed cringe, to me, about Ali's personal style was when he got all racial with Joe Frazier. I don't know much else about it but it seemed unnecessary and took a fair amount of luster off of Ali's reputation as a champion of (perceived) just causes. That's my take, anyway.
                      Mayweather was just so good at his craft that I didn't hate on him so much.

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