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  • #11
    Originally posted by NihonJim View Post
    Usyk rematch

    If not then Parker would be the easiest name defence
    There's nothing easy about Prime Oilskin. He's a hard day at the office for everyone, including Usyk.

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    • #12
      If Daniel Dubois was to win the Undisputed title vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'Then he should ether rematch Uysk III, or fight Anthony Joshua II again. The reason why I have called for those two fights, it is because? Those will be the biggest potential fights for him'.

      It would be extremely highly unlikely for Tyson Fury 'To suddenly make a return, and challenge Daniel Dubois straight out of the blocks. Although I don't particular think Dubois stylistically is the most difficult fight for Fury. The way Oleksandr Uysk was able to push Tyson Fury around in their two fights, and then smash him up in round 9 of the first fight. I honestly believe this has inflicted traumatic damage on Tyson Fury'.

      A former cruiserweight fighter in Oleksandr Uysk, who has never been renowned for his brute strength or power 'Was able to push about Tyson Fury in both of their fights. And for the first time ever during the rematch, Fury against an opponent was unable to throw caution to the wind and pressure Uysk. Even though this was needed for the win. Tyson Fury outweighed Oleksandr Uysk by 50+ pounds in the rematch, but still? Would not pressure Oleksandr Uysk and move forward'.

      Note: Tyson Fury fought a more offensively negative fight than Anthony Joshua did in both of his fights vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'For all the criticism Joshua seems to get for his efforts vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II. The reality is? Anthony Joshua never once fought Oleksandr Uysk off the back foot, and very rarely for any sustained period of time was Uysk able to push back Anthony Joshua. Twice in my opinion, the statistics of Joshua's efforts vs Usyk I & II, show overall that he fought a better and more balanced fights than Tyson Fury'.

      So if Tyson Fury is now fighting all apprehensive and tentative vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'I think this is enough evidence to potentially, not factor him in Daniel Dubois's future fights. Most certainly not if he beats Oleksandr Usyk II in impressive fashion'.

      But I will say this? Tyson Fury does seem to be more game in fighting Daniel Dubois than Anthony Joshua 'Fury has at least spoken about Daniel Dubois in a interview recently'.

      I don't rate Daniel Dubois skills very highly; I acknowledge his power, aggression and brute strength. But I don't rate him overall as an elite level heavyweight fighter. Daniel Dubois is ether going to win fights in spectacular fashion, or lose fights in spectacular fashion. It is almost inevitable; it is just a matter of when and against which top level heavyweight fighter. Daniel Dubois's story and rise to becoming the IBF World Heavyweight Champion, has been inspiring but? In my opinion he is front runner at top level'.

      To conclude: If Oleksandr Uysk has maintained his recent form 'Then I think Daniel Dubois will be done after 4 to 5 rounds. The latter half of the fight, will just be a systematic beat down from Oleksandr Uysk. Infact? I don't even think Uysk will have to pressure Dubois that much; the rounds will beat Daniel Dubois. The effort and pace of the fight, will just gradually decrease Dubois's game, which will then leave him very susceptible to being stopped in the fight'.

      That has been the trajectory of every single one of Daniel Dubois's top level fights, he showed courage vs Joe Joyce to battle for so long while injured. But the action of that fight still showed that as the rounds progressed he was being systematically beaten up. 'Even his fight against Anthony Joshua. In round 4 and 5, the fight was moving back towards Joshua even while he was still recovering from being decked. It was wrong advice from Ben Davidson to instruct Joshua to attack Dubois, as? I personally could detect Daniel Dubois's trait of being a front runner, was beginning to surface already in that fight by round 4. Still a great win by Daniel Dubois, he took his opportunity vs Anthony Joshua. And had his Any Given Saturday: In reference to the NFL movie: Any Given Sunday: 1999'.

      So a trilogy fight vs Oleksandr Uysk III, a rematch vs Anthony Joshua 'And a potential fight against Tyson Fury, would all be the biggest title defense fights for Daniel Dubois if he was able to win vs Olesandr Usyk II' etc.
      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-09-2025, 06:41 AM.

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      • #13
        Homecoming fight against Efe.

        Dubios is going to seriously hurt Usyk.

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        • #14
          I'm thinking here, that a 3rd Usyk fight, and defenses against Fury, Joshua and Wilder (Wilder the only one of those three who is coming off a win at the moment) represents cleaning up the past era for Dubois; while looking towards the future; it's Parker, Kabayel, Miller, Wardley, Ajagba, Torres, Moses Itauma.

          If he could get THAT kind of work done???, the 2025 -2035 era starts off with a GOAT candidate. But, hey. First thing's First.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
            Well, we must be prepared for all outcomes.


            If Dubois gets the work done on the 19th of July; which is possible; we won't be facing an older champion about to retire, and we won't have to wait through a long, drawn out process of reunification and liniage repair. We won't have to suffer through an elongated Round Robin featuring unnecessary rematches and voluntary defenses, that is designed to make money for a large number of unscrupulous people at the expense of the sport, the fans and the most important historical trail in all global entertainment industries.


            Instead, we'd have a fresh face, a young champion holding the liniage, as well as all of the silly belts, and we could start fresh.


            As a bonus, we won't have to listen to any more jibber- jabber about Usyk being in the same class as Dempsey, Louis and Ali. That would be dashed even if Dubois lifted the title on a split decision, as Oleksandr's greatest accomplishmentis that Zero he owns.

            And what would Dubois do next to usher in the new era, post Fury, Wilder, Usyk, Joshua, Ortiz, Whyte, etc.???

            ○ A rematch with Usyk seems the place to start.

            ○ Maybe a Fury fight, which would do well at the gate.

            ○ Joseph Parker has really earned his shot.

            ○ Agit Kabayel has really earned his shot.


            What else?​
            Dubois will lose again.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by famicommander View Post

              Anthony Joshua was shot to pieces. The reality is that Dubois lost every second of the first Usyk fight, got knocked out on a jab, and then cried about a low blow he landed.
              Joshua is ranked #6 in the world and won his first four fights after the rematch loss to Usyk, which was a close fight. That doesn't sound like a "shot to pieces" fighter to me. And there are plenty who believe that body shot landed by Dubois vs Usyk was legitimate.
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              • #17
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                If Daniel Dubois was to win the Undisputed title vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'Then he should ether rematch Uysk III, or fight Anthony Joshua II again. There reason why I have called or those two fights, it is because? Those will be the biggest potential fights for him'.

                It would be extremely highly unlikely for Tyson Fury 'To suddenly make a return, and challenge Daniel Dubois straight out of the blocks. Although I don't particular think Dubois stylistically is the most difficult fight for Fury. The way Oleksandr Uysk was able to push Tyson Fury around in their two fights, and then smash him up in round 9 of the first fight. I honestly believe this has inflicted traumatic damage on Tyson Fury'.

                A former cruiserweight fighter in Oleksandr Uysk, who has never been renowned for his brute strength or power 'Was able to push about Tyson Fury in both of their fights. And for the first time ever during the rematch, Fury against an opponent was unable to throw caution to the wind and pressure Uysk. Even though this was needed for the win. Tyson Fury outweighed Oleksandr Uysk by 50+ pounds in the rematch, but still? Would not pressure Oleksandr Uysk and move forward'.

                Note: Tyson Fury fought a more offensively negative fight than Anthony Joshua did in both of his fights vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'For all the criticism Joshua seems to get for his efforts vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II. The reality is? Anthony Joshua never once fought Oleksandr Uysk off the back foot, and very rarely for any sustained period of time was Uysk able to push back Anthony Joshua. Twice in my opinion, the statistics of Joshua's efforts vs Usyk I & II, show overall that he fought a better and more balanced fights than Tyson Fury'.

                So if Tyson Fury is now fighting all apprehensive and tentative vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'I think this is enough evidence to potentially, not factor him in Daniel Dubois's future fights. Most certainly not if he beats Oleksandr Usyk II in impressive fashion'.

                But I will say this? Tyson Fury does seem to be more game in fighting Daniel Dubois than Anthony Joshua 'Fury has at least spoken about Daniel Dubois in a interview recently'.

                I don't rate Daniel Dubois skills very highly; I acknowledge his power, aggression and brute strength. But I don't rate him overall as an elite level heavyweight fighter. Daniel Dubois is ether going to win fights in spectacular fashion, or lose fights in spectacular fashion. It is almost inevitable; it is just a matter of when and against which top level heavyweight fighter. Daniel Dubois's story and rise to becoming the IBF World Heavyweight Champion, has been inspiring but? In my opinion he is front runner at top level'.

                To conclude: If Oleksandr Uysk has maintained his recent form 'Then I think Daniel Dubois will be done after 4 to 5 rounds. The latter half of the fight, will just be a systematic beat down from Oleksandr Uysk. Infact? I don't even think Uysk will have to pressure Dubois that much; the rounds will beat Daniel Dubois. The effort and pace of the fight, will just gradually decrease Dubois's game, which will then leave him very susceptible to being stopped in the fight'.

                That has been the trajectory of every single one of Daniel Dubois's top level fights, he showed courage vs Joe Joyce to battle for so long while injured. But the action of that fight still showed that as the rounds progressed he was being systematically beaten up. 'Even his fight against Anthony Joshua. In round 4 and 5, the fight was moving back towards Joshua even while he was still recovering from being decked. It was wrong advice from Ben Davidson to instruct Joshua to attack Dubois, as? I personally could detect Daniel Dubois's trait of being a front runner, was beginning to surface already in that fight by round 4. Still a great win by Daniel Dubois, he took his opportunity vs Anthony Joshua. And had his Any Given Saturday: In reference to the NFL movie: Any Given Sunday: 1999'.

                So a trilogy fight vs Oleksandr Uysk III, a rematch vs Anthony Joshua 'And a potential fight against Tyson Fury, would all be the biggest title defense fights for Daniel Dubois if he was able to win vs Olesandr Usyk II' etc.
                Fury is his own worst enemy. His lifestyle is unsuitable for a top-level fighter, and I believe he spent 80% of his preparation time for the Usyk rematch just to get into shape. As for Joshua, in all of his defeats, we've never seen him so thoroughly wiped out as he was by Dubois. Usyk is getting older and DDD is getting better.
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

                  Joshua is ranked #6 in the world and won his first four fights after the rematch loss to Usyk, which was a close fight. That doesn't sound like a "shot to pieces" fighter to me. And there are plenty who believe that body shot landed by Dubois vs Usyk was legitimate.
                  The only people who think it was a clean body shot are Dubois fanboys and people who don't understand the rules of boxing. Period.

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                  • #19
                    Before Usyk folded the current crop of HW's like garden furniture there were all kinds of claims being made that this era was the best era in heavy weight boxing due to the size and technological advancements.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                      The only people who think it was a clean body shot are Dubois fanboys and people who don't understand the rules of boxing. Period.
                      You're probably one of those people who thought the low blows landed by Ward vs Kovalev were clean, while saying Dubois's belt shot was low.

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