Comments Thread For: The Beltline: Maybe now is a good time for Oleksandr Usyk to finally say ?no?

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  • NihonJim
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    #11
    Originally posted by James Hunt
    Why are you constantly sending this guy into retirement?
    Who TF are you to tell him to retire?
    And don't pretend his interests are more important to you than they are to him. He's old enough to know what's best for him.
    There's a desperation for him to retire undefeated for some reason

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    • hugh grant
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      #12
      Usyk will do what is needed to become GOAT. If that means losing and avenging loss to ddd then so be it

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      • Goatintheboat
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        #13
        Originally posted by crixus85
        Completely agree with the sentiments of the lead article. Usyk should retire undefeated and let the rest scrabble for the selection of alphabet belts.
        Why? There are still good fights out there; Kabayel, Parker....maybe Itama in 15 months

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        • hugh grant
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          #14
          Originally posted by crixus85
          Completely agree with the sentiments of the lead article. Usyk should retire undefeated and let the rest scrabble for the selection of alphabet belts.
          You think usyk should retire like marciano? Undefeated. Do you think Marciano is goat? No! Do you think usyk is goat? If you.don't think usyk is goat, we arent in position to say if he should retire.
          Put money where mouth is. Say usyk can now retire as he's goat. I'll say best ddd, kabayel, and maybe future up and comer Itaumas then usyk is arguably goat. Itaumas is good fight as itauma win will grow and a win over Itaumas will.look better over time hopefully.
          I d quite like Parker v usyk too
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          Last edited by hugh grant; 07-05-2025, 10:22 AM.

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          • VislorTurlough
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            #15
            Would like to see Parker get his chance only because he has earned it.

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            • Willow The Wisp
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              #16
              Originally posted by Goatintheboat

              Why? There are still good fights out there; Kabayel, Parker....maybe Itama in 15 months
              Agree. If it's really a status amongst the GOATS he's really after, he's not there yet. 4 close wins over a late career Joshua and clearly past prime Fury is impressive, but really, only represents a good start. Usyk just hasn't had enough fights to be an all-time great.
              Beat Dubois, beat Parker, Kabayel and Itauma, then retire undefeated; and he'll certainly be in the conversation.

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              • Echo Falls
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                #17
                Elliott Worsell is a terrible writer.

                ”Of course, whenever one is renowned for their generosity, it can sometimes be taken for granted and even abused. This is true of the dutiful homemaker who cleans and cooks while her husband is at work, and it is also true of the travelling world heavyweight champion who says “yes” to every fight and fears no man.”

                WTF is this!? The 1950’s?

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                • brankobugarski
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                  #18
                  1000 people, 1000 opinions - you cannot make everybody happy. GOAT or ATG is all a matter of opinion and there will never be a universal agreement. For my money, Usyk has deserved the right to do whatever TF he wants.

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                  • rully
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                    #19
                    I would love for Usyk to retire after Dubois fight. He has nothing left to prove. Next fights if he decides to take are more risks with no gain. From business point of view, there is no way Usyk can be bigger than Joshua, Fury, or even Wilder. Simply because UK & US have bigger audience. Same case like GGG would never be bigger than Canelo, so like it or not on GGG - Canelo 1 if it was flip of a coin, simply the privilege was given to Canelo who is younger and have much bigger audience. As for Usyk, sporting wise, he has achieved everything and can do much bigger things in life than money earned from boxing

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                    • landotter
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                      #20
                      I will say what I have said since the rematch with Fury: Usyk gives up too much size and natural power to other HWs to stay undefeated forever. He needs to be perfect in his fights to win, and gets his KOs or hurts his opponents by accumulated punishment. He is effective over a period of the fight and hurts his opponents by clean multiple punches. Most of his opponents own 1 punch KO power, so all he needs to do is lose focus once at the wrong time. So from the outside, there is a very solid set of reasoning for Usyk to retire soon, But has anyone seen him in the build-up to this rematch? He is energetic, poking fun at everyone around him, and laughing between all the hard work and prep. I do not know how long Usyk wants to continue, but there is zero chance he retires if he defeats DuBois. The man is having to much fun.

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