Comments Thread For: On July 4, the best American boxers, decade by decade

[Haka]

You do understand that this article specifically was rating fighters from the United States, right?

Thinking about it it could be right about the 10s about the 00s there are others as well.

[daggum]

Show me a video where Usyk gets beat up like that in the 10s. As far as the best fighter of the 00's, why don't you think Calzaghe resume is better ?

They didnt call him GI Joe Calzaghe for nothing! Calzaghe born and raised in Omaha nebraska. They called him the slapping cornhusker as we all know. I Loved going down to the state fair as a young lad to watch him fight.

[daggum]

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And there it is ….. Ali was fighter of the decade and he lost to Frazier, Norton, and Spinks yet you say nothing.
Sugar Ray lost a few times and you say nothing.

But but but …. But nothing.

You only mention losses because thats the only card you can play to compare to Floyd since hes "undefeated" if you mention wins ali and Leonard blow Floyd away with quality wins.

Not saying hes not the best American fighter of those decades, I would have to do more research but the difference is vast. Ali beat prime Frazier and foreman during the 70s. Leonard beat prime or near prime Duran, hearns, and hagler.

I dont see floyd having 1 win on par with those. Bunch of old guys sure but those wins arent holding up over time, you could say canelo but then we know what happened with the weight limit which takes it from an a level win to something far from it.

I think we can safely deem the 00's and 10's the dead era in boxing. Let's hope the 20s produce some real fighters and with guys like usyk and inoue leading the way it's looking good. These guys actually want to fight. It's back to the Alis and leonards of old.

[MalevolentBite]

American

I was just making a point most boxing fans have a disstain for American Fighters especially the "slick" fighting style ones. Thats why there's not alot of people on this trend.

[MalevolentBite]

American

Tito is Rican thats American but I get your comment.

[MalevolentBite]

You only mention losses because thats the only card you can play to compare to Floyd since hes "undefeated" if you mention wins ali and Leonard blow Floyd away with quality wins.

Not saying hes not the best American fighter of those decades, I would have to do more research but the difference is vast. Ali beat prime Frazier and foreman during the 70s. Leonard beat prime or near prime Duran, hearns, and hagler.

I dont see floyd having 1 win on par with those. Bunch of old guys sure but those wins arent holding up over time, you could say canelo but then we know what happened with the weight limit which takes it from an a level win to something far from it.

I think we can safely deem the 00's and 10's the dead era in boxing. Let's hope the 20s produce some real fighters and with guys like usyk and inoue leading the way it's looking good. These guys actually want to fight. It's back to the Alis and leonards of old.

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[Oregonian]

You only mention losses because thats the only card you can play to compare to Floyd since hes "undefeated" if you mention wins ali and Leonard blow Floyd away with quality wins.

Not saying hes not the best American fighter of those decades, I would have to do more research but the difference is vast. Ali beat prime Frazier and foreman during the 70s. Leonard beat prime or near prime Duran, hearns, and hagler.

I dont see floyd having 1 win on par with those. Bunch of old guys sure but those wins arent holding up over time, you could say canelo but then we know what happened with the weight limit which takes it from an a level win to something far from it.

I think we can safely deem the 00's and 10's the dead era in boxing. Let's hope the 20s produce some real fighters and with guys like usyk and inoue leading the way it's looking good. These guys actually want to fight. It's back to the Alis and leonards of old.

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This is what you wrote

posted by Haka View Post
Fighter of the decade beaten up by Maidana and where the ref is illegally breaking up to prevent further damage.

After I remind you that Ali & SRL lost, you move goal posts to Floyd’s undefeated record. I never mentioned it. I only reminded you that Ali and SRL lost. Should they not be on the fighter of the decade because of those losses? Isn’t that your logic?

[Oregonian]

Atleast Usyk never got dominated in such fashion and also went undefeated in the 10s. Did Calzaghe ever had such a close of a fight in the 00s wherein his dad admitted defeat ?

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Once again, you are shifting goal posts and trying really hard.
I am responding what you wrote about Floyd? Why are you bringing up Usyk and Calzaghe?

[Haka]

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This is what you wrote

posted by Haka View Post
Fighter of the decade beaten up by Maidana and where the ref is illegally breaking up to prevent further damage.

After I remind you that Ali & SRL lost, you move goal posts to Floyd’s undefeated record. I never mentioned it. I only reminded you that Ali and SRL lost. Should they not be on the fighter of the decade because of those losses? Isn’t that your logic?

I don't recall any of those fights had the same dynamic with the ref illegally interfering in favor of the boxer on the receiving end.

[MalevolentBite]

I don't recall any of those fights had the same dynamic with the ref illegally interfering in favor of the boxer on the receiving end.

When did a ref do something illegally in a floyd fight?