What was more of a robbery? Berto-Collazo or Froch-Dirrell

[hozer915]

my feelings in this fight are kinda how i felt for cotto-clottey cuz i had dirrell and clottey winnin close in both fights, but its kinda their fault they lost cuz they easily coulda left a better impression on the judges. they had cotto/froch in huge trouble but because of the way they fight didnt do more when they could have. dont tthink either was a robberry tho

[Pullcounter]

berto/collazo was a close fight... dirrell beat crotch 8-4.

[MJ406]

I think the term robbery is way over used .. especially in the case of close fights.

regarding the 2 examples listed

Berto-Collazo ... 2 judges had it 114-113 ... indicating what many have already said on here .. that it was a close fight

and regarding Froch-Dirrell, I thought it easily coulda been a draw, and the only thing I'll say as to why Dirrell lost is yes he made Froch wiff at plenty of punches showing grade A reflexes ... however his excessive movement + holding probably played a factor in the judges decision.

many people will say how badly Andre made Froch look at times during the fight, and that is spot on

however they forget to mention what I underlined ... like it never happened.

[Toney Loc]

Collazo/Berto was a close fight and it came down to the championship rounds. Froch/Dirrell was not close at all.

[The_Demon]

I called Collazo-Berto a robbery the first time around, second time when i actually scored i had Berto winning clearly.

I saw Froch-Dirrell 5 times and couldn't give Froch more than 3 rounds. Honestly...

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atleast berto wasnt hitting air all night

[Bhopreign]

I felt Berto won, no robbery in my eyes. Dirrell/Froch was a bad decision.

[S.G.]

I just watched Froch v Dirrell for the 3rd time and Dirrell won it, clear as day. In fact if the judges hadn't been so corrupt we'd all be on here talking about what a schooling it was at points.

I had him 5 points ahead at the final bell.

[Bhopreign]

I can make a way better case for Berto, Juarez, and Diaz then I have heard anyone make for Froch.

No one making a case for Froch actually bring up what Froch did it is all about how Dirrell fought. The clean effective punching clearly favored one man no matter how they fought and no one is even dis*****g that.

I still will not call it a robbery because Dirrell is to blame because he did not go the extra mile to really announce his control of the fight but to me it was clear because Froch did nothing (in all the other fights that people scream robbery the guy atleast did something).

Perfectly stated.

[Bhopreign]

I think the term robbery is way over used .. especially in the case of close fights.

regarding the 2 examples listed

Berto-Collazo ... 2 judges had it 114-113 ... indicating what many have already said on here .. that it was a close fight

and regarding Froch-Dirrell, I thought it easily coulda been a draw, and the only thing I'll say as to why Dirrell lost is yes he made Froch wiff at plenty of punches showing grade A reflexes ... however his excessive movement + holding probably played a factor in the judges decision.

many people will say how badly Andre made Froch look at times during the fight, and that is spot on

however they forget to mention what I underlined ... like it never happened.

Dirrell didnt do himself any favors by trash talking in the ring, wearing a shirt beforehand showing he had already won the WBC title didnt help either, Ive seen so many fights where the ref is offended when a guy is showboating, judges dont like it either and its the European mentality to be cordial, show class, and be a gentleman.

With that said none of that stuff should have any effect on the officiating or scoring of a fight.

[MJ406]

your right none of that stuff should effect the outcome

but when it comes to in ring action .. Dirrell was holding and using a lot of movement

and in situations like that ^ Froch's pressure probably got him the benefit, as he's trying to make the fight, rather then spoil with holding + moving away

if Dirrell landed punches and it probably would have effected the scoring more in his favor.

as sure he was making Froch miss plenty at times

but in the same token one could say Dirrell was borderline running.

and when it comes down to the above

in the guys hometown the judges will be more likely to give the man who's making the fight

rather then the one playing keep away.