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  • #51
    When Fury came out of retirement last time (or rather when the performance enhancing drugs silent ban was over) he fought Seferi and Pianeta before stepping up.
    AJ fighting Whyte and Anderson in comparison is a considerably better pair of opponents, after taking the worst beating of his career vs Dubois. Wouldn't have been surprised if fought someone lower level like Seferi or Pianeta.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      When did Mayweather do that?
      When didnt he? He's had plenty of snooker and although he won, s snoozer is bad

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      • #53
        Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

        When didnt he?
        Pay attention, you're doing the same thing he did.

        The onus is not on me to cite when something didn't happen, but the claimant to cite when it did. So since you seem to be concurring, perhaps you could answer the simple quesiton?

        The claim is that Mayweather picked fighters "coming off an arguably bad performance".

        When did Mayweather do that? List the fights. ​​

        Originally posted by El_Mero View Post
        He's had plenty of snooker and although he won, s snoozer is bad
        ​Not even the first clue what point you're attempting to make here.

        Or even what you're trying to say.

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        • #54
          Dillian Whyte needs time to cycle off the PEDs.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by SteveM View Post

            He's been beaten by Dubois (badly) and Usyk (twice comprehensively) - there's no point in re-matching Dubois again after a 3rd round KO - if that fight got made there'd be loads of posters on here chirping away that they want to see fresh match-ups not the same old fighters rotated around and around. Anderson got slaughtered by Bakole and Joshua by Dubois - that's a good do-or-die match-up - the winner puts themselves into the conversation for a title shot (although Joshua will always be there as the cash-cow) and the loser can either go back to scratch or retire.
            Just for the F of it, I'd love to see Bakole vs. Dubois after Dubois gets pieced up again by Usyk.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              Er ya kind of do. Make a claim, back it up. Kind of exactly how it works

              ...It's a very simple question mate, this is your second time directly avoiding it. Fancy trying to answer it on third attempt?

              You have claimed that Mayweather picked fighters "coming off an arguably bad performance".

              When did Mayweather do that? List the fights. ​
              Hatton, Berto, Ortiz, De la Hoya, Judah I could keep going I can't be bothered there is plenty of other examples where they have a couple of nothing between fights so technically the were one or two fights removed from a terrible performance but that's semantics​.

              Just like AJ would be having now than fighting so he can take more damage and slow down because his style replies on explosiveness more than Furys...

              But I know you're disingenuous​ that's why I couldn't be bothered in the first place

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              • #57
                Originally posted by FlatLine View Post
                When Fury came out of retirement last time (or rather when the performance enhancing drugs silent ban was over) he fought Seferi and Pianeta before stepping up.
                AJ fighting Whyte and Anderson in comparison is a considerably better pair of opponents, after taking the worst beating of his career vs Dubois. Wouldn't have been surprised if fought someone lower level like Seferi or Pianeta.
                AJ wasn't out for 2 and half years and Fury fought Seferi, Pianeta and Wilder in less than 6 months.

                And at this point Dillian is equivalent to Pianeta, one time title challenger who hasn't done anything and looked awful against a guy FRAZER bloody CLARKE went on to stop in 1...

                The only people I can think who come back to decent opponents straight away after years out is SRL and Ali and obviously they're a different gravy...
                Last edited by Boro; 05-29-2025, 04:50 AM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

                  Not getting into who rejected what AJ rejected 50 in that case. Either way for AJ, Wilder and Fury are still both the biggest fights. Yeah people will say pat their best etc (which they are) but times come where those fights are made and watch the hype build
                  That wasn't real though. It was literally an email and when they said send the contract wilder refused. That's actually evidence agaisnt wilder not for him because it shows he was bluffing. Joshua's 100 million contract was actually real and wilder said so. Wilder was just doing Public relations and credit to him it worked since people still post things like you just did even though it's based on a wilder lie
                  El_Mero El_Mero likes this.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Boro View Post

                    Hatton, Berto, Ortiz, De la Hoya, Judah I could keep going I can't be bothered there is plenty of other examples where they have a couple of nothing between fights so technically the were one or two fights removed from a terrible performance but that's semantics​.

                    Just like AJ would be having now than fighting so he can take more damage and slow down because his style replies on explosiveness more than Furys...

                    But I know you're disingenuous​ that's why I couldn't be bothered in the first place
                    Ricky Hatton, you mean undefeated P4P #8? What arguably bad performance was he coming off?

                    Victor Ortiz? That one must be a mistake. He was coming off the best win of his career was #2 at WW and the WBC Champion.

                    Oscar De La Hoya was #3 at 154, again the WBC champion and coming off a KO of Mayorga.

                    Judah is the only (relevant) fight in Floyd’s entire career I’d say you’d have a point, coming off a loss to Baldomir. That fight only went ahead because they had a verbal agreement pre Baldomir. But still, fits the criteria (coming off an arguably bad performance) so there’s one.

                    So, you have one that actually fits your criteria. Any more you think you can add?

                    I see you’ve expanded it to “one or two nothing fights inbetween a terrible performance” can you name even one of those? I’d like to hear even just one example of that in Floyd’s career.

                    And no you “couldn’t be bothered” because you’re talking nonsense and something that’s objectively not true hence why on the third time of asking you’ve listed fights that don’t even fit the criteria. But go ahead, continue since there is “plenty”

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                      Ricky Hatton, you mean undefeated P4P #8? What arguably bad performance was he coming off?

                      Victor Ortiz? That one must be a mistake. He was coming off the best win of his career was #2 at WW and the WBC Champion.

                      Oscar De La Hoya was #3 at 154, again the WBC champion and coming off a KO of Mayorga.

                      Judah is the only (relevant) fight in Floyd’s entire career I’d say you’d have a point, coming off a loss to Baldomir. That fight only went ahead because they had a verbal agreement pre Baldomir. But still, fits the criteria (coming off an arguably bad performance) so there’s one.

                      So, you have one that actually fits your criteria. Any more you think you can add?

                      I see you’ve expanded it to “one or two nothing fights inbetween a terrible performance” can you name even one of those? I’d like to hear even just one example of that in Floyd’s career.

                      And no you “couldn’t be bothered” because you’re talking nonsense and something that’s objectively not true hence why on the third time of asking you’ve listed fights that don’t even fit the criteria. But go ahead, continue since there is “plenty”
                      You meaning a Hatton that was dragged up weight, was renowned for his yo-yo dieting and his drug and alcohol problems...

                      Ortiz had just been bounced off the ring twice by Berto who is crap, himself another guy Floyd fought whilst he was on a comeback trail (literally fits the one or two fights criteria)....

                      All three of them meet the criteria but you're disingenuous like I said...
                      • Pacquiao - three fights removed from being stopped by Marquez.
                      • Cotto - three fights removed from being stopped by pac.
                      • Marquez - two fights removed from his loss to pac and dragged up in weight.
                      • De la Hoya - one fight removed from his loss to Hopkins.
                      • Sharmba Mitchell - one fight removed from his loss to Tszyu.

                      This is pretty much the tale of his career, I don't know why you're trying to deny this.

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