Who wins: Joshua vs Miller today?

[Spray_resistant]

Based on their most recent performances I'm going with PED and fast food junkie Miller. I thought he beat fat Andy pretty clearly even if it was officially scored a draw. AJ looked like a stiff robot even more so than usual.

[NihonJim]

Miller

Dubois couldn't miss him all night and only got a ref stoppage because a ridiculously overweight miller was about to pass out from fatigue.

Ruiz also couldn't put a dent in miller and arguably lost to him.

So there is no question at all over who is tougher physically between Joshua and Miller

Now theoretically Joshua has the tools to stay out of trouble and outpoint Miller but he doesn't have the discipline to do that for 12 rounds, he always gets involved so at some point there will be an exchange and Joshua's legs will go and will never recover.

Look, Joshua has Amir Khan level punch resistance, he got away with it before because his aura scared his opponents and made them more focused on survival than clipping his chin, but that's gone now and he's not done what he should have done and developed a Wlad style defensive game, any live body who fancies it can have a go on AJ now.

[Nash out]

Look Nash - until, say, two years ago I would have concurred completely. But I noticed a rather steady decline in Miller's athleticism (so to speak). Don't forget that AJ was hurting Dubois just before being starched, thus I presume that he would be able to hurt Big Baby as well.

In any case, it's a fight that I would like to watch.

The longer the fight goes I'd start to favour Miller, as Miller will attack him and put some heat on, both fighters are in decline, but it's a fight of interest and history. Nash out - His Majesty

[JakeTheBoxer]

Probably Miller. They are both terrible, Joshua is worse right now.

[deathofaclown]

Miller around 300lbs beats AJ.

Miller at 330 like Vs Dubois loses to most gold fighters

He's a very different fighter when he's close to 300 compared to 330.

[Rockybigblower]

Look Nash - until, say, two years ago I would have concurred completely. But I noticed a rather steady decline in Miller's athleticism (so to speak). Don't forget that AJ was hurting Dubois just before being starched, thus I presume that he would be able to hurt Big Baby as well.

In any case, it's a fight that I would like to watch.

Thats a stretch. He landed a good shot that stunned Dubois for a moment...but Dubois never lost momentum. There was no point in that fight that AJ was remotely competitive. Outjabbed....outsped...consistently beaten to the punch. Knocked down twice in 3 rounds...in reality 3 times...and knocked out in 5.

[Tatabanya]

Thats a stretch. He landed a good shot that stunned Dubois for a moment...but Dubois never lost momentum. There was no point in that fight that AJ was remotely competitive. Outjabbed....outsped...consistently beaten to the punch. Knocked down twice in 3 rounds...in reality 3 times...and knocked out in 5.

I said that AJ was hurting Dubois, not that he was winning the fight. Had Joshua struck twice instead of getting countered, he could have caused damage. And I'm sure as hell that Dubois has better conditioning than Miller; that's why I believe that Miller gets knocked out if AJ hits him good.

All big "ifs", though.

[hugh grant]

Millar is no good. He's just a walking chin. But actually, with the endurance peds Millar uses anything's possible

[TMLT87]

I don't think that Joshua "should've gone ahead" with the Miller fight, nessisarily; but ducking him didn't prevent him from getting splattered all over the ring that night, did it?

.....or did I miss something?

Its pretty harsh to say Joshua ducked him. If anything taking a guy like Ruiz as a late replacement was pretty ballsy to the point of being kind of ******. He swapped out one top 10 level guy for another top 10 level guy with a few weeks left when he could have gotten away with fighting a nobody.

[Willow The Wisp]

You missed making a coherent point, as you often do.

I disagree with your assessment of my postings here.
But I have witnessed confrontational behavior on message boards before; and I forgive you.
I don't want to be your adversary nor Iron Dan's, or anyone else.

To reset this.....what was your stance on this topic again?