Inoue NOT Afraid To Get Hit Like American Fighters That Run. Haney Should Take A Page Of Inoue.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Based on what? Not trying to lump you in with the rest but people shlt on Crawford saying his resume is trash but he's an elite fighter, yet booty ennis resume IS trash and he's looked bad against terrible opposition and you guys are hyping him up.

Not to mention he's turned down fights against Crawford AND Ortiz

So it's not hating if its facts

I didn't say he's a great fighter now, but I do believe he has the attributes TO BE a great fighter. His attributes were displayed against Stanionis. I'll admit he looked much bigger than Stanionis, but his power, skill and speed were evident in that fight. I might be wrong, but I don't think it's a given that he loses against the killers at 154 and I would slightly favor him against many of the big names at 154.

He obviously has to prove it when he moves up but I was also trying to point out in my post that Boots is fun and exciting to watch. He gets caught because he doesn't fight to not get hit, he fights to bust heads and that's a style that many people love to watch and he mixes his skills well with ferocity. I mean, what's there to complain about when it comes to his skill and style???

[TheProudLunatic]

Not everyone is a power puncher
You fight to your "strengths"

Crowd pleasers don't usually last long unless their comp is lower level or not known for having power themselves.

[Teetotaler23]

I didn't say he's a great fighter now, but I do believe he has the attributes TO BE a great fighter. His attributes were displayed against Stanionis. I'll admit he looked much bigger than Stanionis, but his power, skill and speed were evident in that fight. I might be wrong, but I don't think it's a given that he loses against the killers at 154 and I would slightly favor him against many of the big names at 154.

He obviously has to prove it when he moves up but I was also trying to point out in my post that Boots is fun and exciting to watch. He gets caught because he doesn't fight to not get hit, he fights to bust heads and that's a style that many people love to watch and he mixes his skills well with ferocity. I mean, what's there to complain about when it comes to his skill and style???

What names do you favor him at 154?

Nothing to complain about his skill or style at all, it's his competition. That simple

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Not everyone is a power puncher
You fight to your "strengths"

Crowd pleasers don't usually last long unless their comp is lower level or not known for having power themselves.

You are correct, not everyone is a power puncher and you make do with what you have, but I have to mention a few crowd pleasers who did last long. Ali, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Chavez, Morales, Trinidad, ODLH, Manny, Marquez are just a few and they all lost and were dropped. These guys understood that boxing is a physical sport and you win by throwing punches.

I remember when Morales beat Manny, he was asked, "how were you able to beat Manny?" His reply was "by throwing punches" and that made so much sense and he was right. You please the crowd by throwing punches. Last Sunday's fight is a prime example, Inoue was dropped, but he got the win by hurling combinations... Now compare that fight to Friday and Saturday's fights. There was nothing pleasing about Haney vs Ramirez or Ginger vs Scull.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

What names do you favor him at 154?

Nothing to complain about his skill or style at all, it's his competition. That simple

I favor him over Tszyu, Fundora, Madrimov. I used to favor him over Virgil, not sure now but it wouldn't surprise me to see Boots beat Virgil in a close, grueling battle. I give a slight edge to Murta and Bohachuk..

[TheProudLunatic]

Getting hit is part of the job, so I don't think anyone worth a damn is afraid..
But, why get hit if you can avoid it ?

Getting hit only helps the other guy win a fight.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I think Haney is definitely scared to take a punch.

That in no way means Inoue wanted to take that shot in the 2nd round. He got countered and caught.

That he got up and went in to win imo shows how good he is.

nobody said he voluntarily asked to get punched... the point is that he's not afraid to get hit... he knows exchanging like that could get him caught BUT he's willing to take that risk to delivery his own shot... Kinda like Marquez.. this is why lots of folks respect his way of fighting.

[The D3vil]

he didnt mention boots! but he said american fighters such as haney, shakur, etc. get treated that way because it's the culture.

american fighters also put this upon themselves, making strong claims that they are the best or that their opponents cannot beat them, etc..

so when the knockdown happens, people will clown them for it because of what was said prior to the fight.

he mention that japanese culture is not like this and that they respect each other, etc.

I specifically brought up Boots because he gets criticized for getting hit.

[The D3vil]

Boots made a solid start to changing the way that people talk about him by finally increasing his level of competition. People give Inoue a pass because he's fought the best available competition his entire career. Look at how many champions and ranked fighters each has fought as a percentage of their career, and you might start to understand why Boots has gotten flak. Would he still be undefeated if he'd challenged himself the same way Inoue did? Who knows, because he didn't do it. His team has a long history of avoiding tough fights and then complaining about being ducked himself.

Or, you could look at the win-loss ratio of their opponents. Inoue's opponents have over a 90% win rate, and all but a handful were ranked. Boots' have something like 62%, and he's ONLY fought a handful of ranked opponents. One is getting clipped finally in his fifth weight class at the world title level with something like 26 title fights. The other is getting clipped by C level opponents in his first division.

The Stanionis fight went a long way to helping Ennis prove his case, and I hope he gets the other two champs at 147, but he's nowhere even worth talking about in comparison to Inoue, frankly, now, or maybe even ever if he keeps letting his dad turn down fights.

What do you mean "challenge himself"

Boots unlike Inoue can't fight whoever he wants.

He couldn't make Crawford, Spence, Ortiz, & all those dudes fight him without bending over a barrel.

Inoue, like Tank or Canelo can fight who they want because they're cash cows.

It's completely unfair to compare guys like Boots & Crawford's resumes to guys who guys jump at fighting

And if Boots got knocked down by a Lyft driver, you'd better believe, he wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt.

[IceTrayDaGang]

What do you mean "challenge himself"

Boots unlike Inoue can't fight whoever he wants.

He couldn't make Crawford, Spence, Ortiz, & all those dudes fight him without bending over a barrel.

Inoue, like Tank or Canelo can fight who they want because they're cash cows.

It's completely unfair to compare guys like Boots & Crawford's resumes to guys who guys jump at fighting

And if Boots got knocked down by a Lyft driver, you'd better believe, he wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt.

maybe boots should become a lyft driver part time to make some money while being dominate in his division and maybe he gets a big fight like cardenas did?