With all due respect but Usyk has only fought 3 guys as a champ at hw

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  • Toffee
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    #21
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
    Joshua, Fury, Dubois


    And he fights Dubois again. In the fight nobody needs. The division is not about 3 guys only anymore.

    People complain about top 175 dogs going in the trilogy when they are 1-1, with both fights being competitive. Usyk us getting the pass for rematching the guy he stopped.

    And don't you tell me about the f.ucking Ibf belt.
    Since September 2021 (3 and a half years) he's beaten Joshua twice, Fury twice, and beaten Dubois.

    Every one of those was either the right fight to make, or a fight he had to make.

    And yes, there's a belt out there. Plus the opponent is pretty universally recognised as his closest challenger.

    I'm not sure what more he needs to do to earn your full respect.

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    • TMLT87
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      #22
      Beating a range of opponents (as long as they're quality of course) > constant rematches. He should fight Parker and/or Kabayel before fighting Dubois again. I would have rather he had fought Zhang or Bakole last year instead of rematching Fury too, now the window for those fights has closed.

      Usyk rematching 3 of his 5 HW opponents is kind of ridiculous honestly, as is the fact that hes a "world" champion who has fought exclusively British opponents for the last 5 years. I'm not actually blaming Usyk for it either, its more that the UK stars/market have a lot of pull to get these opportunities.

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      • Coverdale
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        #23
        Originally posted by TMLT87
        Beating a range of opponents (as long as they're quality of course) > constant rematches. He should fight Parker and/or Kabayel before fighting Dubois again. I would have rather he had fought Zhang or Bakole last year instead of rematching Fury too, now the window for those fights has closed.

        Usyk rematching 3 of his 5 HW opponents is kind of ridiculous honestly, as is the fact that hes a "world" champion who has fought exclusively British opponents for the last 5 years. I'm not actually blaming Usyk for it either, its more that the UK stars/market have a lot of pull to get these opportunities.
        To even get the fights with Joshua and Fury he had to commit to rematch clauses.

        Dubois is ranked #1 by TBRB. Parker and Kabayel should fight each other rather than sit on those 'interim' baubles.

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        • Dr Z
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          #24
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
          Joshua, Fury, Dubois


          And he fights Dubois again. In the fight nobody needs. The division is not about 3 guys only anymore.

          People complain about top 175 dogs going in the trilogy when they are 1-1, with both fights being competitive. Usyk us getting the pass for rematching the guy he stopped.

          And don't you tell me about the f.ucking Ibf belt.
          He fogut them multiple times. All are top 6 guys in the divison. He is that good or the other guy are that poor.

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          • Rockybigblower
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            #25
            I dont mind rematches....as sometimes they determine wether the first time was an anomoly. Quite often champions have excuses for losses...there are no excuses in rematches as each fighter has already seen the other...and get ample time to prepare for the second fight. Happened today with Surace. Usyk beat AJ and Fury twice.. proved hes the superior fighter. Dubois has complaints...this will close it out. Then he could beat Parker twice....Kabayel twice...im fine. Usyk is the real deal....end of story.

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