With all due respect but Usyk has only fought 3 guys as a champ at hw

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  • Smash
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    #11
    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
    good fights but not truly necessary

    Fury outboxed him the first time and destroyed him in part 2

    Usyk won convincingly on the first go
    they were the top guys for a reason and rematch clauses are part of boxing when u are a top guy, thats boxing

    people on here would have zhang bakole etc as these ultimate bogeymen who they are somehow avoiding all the time

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    • SouthpawRight
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      #12
      Originally posted by Smash

      they were the top guys for a reason and rematch clauses are part of boxing when u are a top guy, thats boxing

      people on here would have zhang bakole etc as these ultimate bogeymen who they are somehow avoiding all the time
      zhang lol

      chinese jelly roll

      what happened to that HeadShots soynaman troll who was on his ick cuz they both chinese

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      • RingoKid
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        #13
        Originally posted by Haka

        Dubois has worked his way up again, and he has done more than Parker. In fact he has done the most off all other HW's Not the smartest of the bunch ?
        Sniffles has done no such thing.

        He was gifted a title shot vs Usyk he didn't earn and then a belt by Usyk he also didn't earn.

        Beating Miller, Hrgovic and Joshua doesn't compare to Parker beating Wilder, Zhang and Bakolie.

        What it shows is how Fisheyes and Fast Eddie have manipulated their Brit fighters into positions they havent earnt.

        Fairplay, but Parker is the most deserving of a title shot and if he were British like Joshua, Fury and Dubois he'd have had one by now.

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          #14
          Originally posted by RingoKid

          Sniffles has done no such thing.

          He was gifted a title shot vs Usyk he didn't earn and then a belt by Usyk he also didn't earn.

          Beating Miller, Hrgovic and Joshua doesn't compare to Parker beating Wilder, Zhang and Bakolie.

          What it shows is how Fisheyes and Fast Eddie have manipulated their Brit fighters into positions they havent earnt.

          Fairplay, but Parker is the most deserving of a title shot and if he were British like Joshua, Fury and Dubois he'd have had one by now.
          Dubois is above Parker in the TBRB rankings. End of argument.

          Instead of sitting on 'interim' baubles, Kabayel and Parker should face each other.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
            Joshua, Fury, Dubois


            And he fights Dubois again. In the fight nobody needs. The division is not about 3 guys only anymore.

            People complain about top 175 dogs going in the trilogy when they are 1-1, with both fights being competitive. Usyk us getting the pass for rematching the guy he stopped.

            And don't you tell me about the f.ucking Ibf belt.
            Your math is correct. Are you saying he should NOT have rematched Greedy Belly and AJ, and should NOT want to re-unify all the belts as he will do in the DDD fight?

            This is Prize Fighting after all. He'll make more $$$ against DDD than any other boxer due to British fans £££.

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              #16
              Originally posted by RingoKid

              Sniffles has done no such thing.

              He was gifted a title shot vs Usyk he didn't earn and then a belt by Usyk he also didn't earn.

              Beating Miller, Hrgovic and Joshua doesn't compare to Parker beating Wilder, Zhang and Bakolie.

              What it shows is how Fisheyes and Fast Eddie have manipulated their Brit fighters into positions they havent earnt.

              Fairplay, but Parker is the most deserving of a title shot and if he were British like Joshua, Fury and Dubois he'd have had one by now.
              As I just pointed out 1) the DDD fight will re-unify all the HW belts, which will be a historical achievement and 2) hell make WAAAY more cash against DDD at Wembley than vs Parker ,Kabayel or anyone else.

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                #17
                3 of the top 4 guys of the era. parker is the only one he is missing. wilder was never on this level as we found out.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  Joshua, Fury, Dubois


                  And he fights Dubois again. In the fight nobody needs. The division is not about 3 guys only anymore.

                  People complain about top 175 dogs going in the trilogy when they are 1-1, with both fights being competitive. Usyk us getting the pass for rematching the guy he stopped.

                  And don't you tell me about the f.ucking Ibf belt.
                  I salute your point as being valid. If it all ended following Usyk-Dubois II, the 2nd Ukrainian to hold the Heavyweight championship won't be remembered as a champion who proved his worth against a large number of heavyweights.
                  That's a fact.

                  But luckily for his legacy, there's more than one way to achieve greatness in the sport.

                  Hopefully, we'll get to see Parker also get the shot he's earned as well.

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                  • RingoKid
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by MarbleFallsMauler

                    As I just pointed out 1) the DDD fight will re-unify all the HW belts, which will be a historical achievement and 2) hell make WAAAY more cash against DDD at Wembley than vs Parker ,Kabayel or anyone else.
                    And if Sniffles had fought Parker first, like he was supposed to, the winner would have fought Usyk for all the belts anyway.

                    I get that its Fisheyes doing the sums and pulling Sniffles from the Parker fight for a more lucrative Usyk one.

                    Thats the whole point. The powers that be can make more money from Sniffles than Oilskin so here we are...

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                    • Haka
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by RingoKid

                      Sniffles has done no such thing.

                      He was gifted a title shot vs Usyk he didn't earn and then a belt by Usyk he also didn't earn.

                      Beating Miller, Hrgovic and Joshua doesn't compare to Parker beating Wilder, Zhang and Bakolie.

                      What it shows is how Fisheyes and Fast Eddie have manipulated their Brit fighters into positions they havent earnt.

                      Fairplay, but Parker is the most deserving of a title shot and if he were British like Joshua, Fury and Dubois he'd have had one by now.
                      Stringing 3 wins together is feat but I don't rate Bakolie, Zhang, Wilder that much.

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