Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #741
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Are you sure about this? Or was it because pac was 8 division champ and stopped cotto and dlh and floyd couldnt? Team mayweather thought pac was on peds because he was doing things no boxer in history could do
    He stopped both because both were drained.

    By trying to negotiate a cutoff Manny made himself look guilty. That is on him.

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    • SouthpawRight
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      #742
      manny gets whooped by TBud at welter

      the timing and one punch ko power of TBud at 147

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      • djtmal
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        #743
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        Yes, I don't think it was because of back acne, or having large head
        That's not proof of anything and that's the issue

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        • djtmal
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          #744
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          He stopped both because both were drained.

          By trying to negotiate a cutoff Manny made himself look guilty. That is on him.
          None of that makes him guilty

          Did he or did he not fail a test

          Simple yes or no answer​

          You won't answer direct because you know the only thing that makes him guilty is a failed test.

          Look at this half azzed bs artist
          Last edited by djtmal; 05-06-2025, 10:50 AM.

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            #745
            Originally posted by djtmal

            None of that makes him guilty

            Did he or did he not fail a test

            Simple yes or no answer​

            You won't answer direct because you know the only thing that makes him guilty is a failed test.

            Look at this half azzed bs artist
            I answered this question multiple times before. I answered it again in this thread.

            I am not answering any other way because you are a knob gobbling fuck boy wasting my time.

            Reminder- you have accused multiple boxers of being on PEDs despite them not testing positive either.

            Now you’re crying like a baby because the same standard you apply to them is being applied to Manny.

            Get over it,

            Also, you illiterate pole smoking asswipe, I said Manny made himself look guilty, not that he was.

            Take some time off of Manny’s nutsack and learn how to read.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 05-06-2025, 11:12 AM.

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            • djtmal
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              #746
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              I answered this question multiple times before. I answered it again in this thread.

              I am not answering any other way because you are a knob gobbling *********** boy wasting my time.

              Reminder- you have accused multiple boxers of being on PEDs despite them not testing positive either.

              .
              Focus we talking about Manny Pacquiao

              What you are babbling about doesn't prove guilt of ped use

              Failed tests prove that

              Answer the question direct the way it was asked

              Did he or did he not fail a test

              Yes or no
              Last edited by djtmal; 05-06-2025, 11:57 AM.

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              • HisExcellency
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                #747
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                It's you that pulled a statistic out of thin air, dumbass.

                Where are you getting 100 million from? Thin air again. And 100,000 people hypothetically saying Thurman is not a puncher is a small handful to you? That's over the entirety of active users on this site currently.
                Lol 100m wasn't meant to be taken LITERALLY simpleton...I was using it as an example to show you that a 'handful' of people doesn't necessarily mean just one person (as your previous post alluded too). In other words, 100,000 is a small handful of 100 million TARD!

                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                I don't care who where when or why Thurman was ranked #3, he was ranked #3 like you've just admitted. That means he was not considered to be the best WW at the time and that is a fact.

                And the fact you've just tried to compare Tiger Woods with Keith Thurman is comical
                Again, trust you to take the Woods/Thurman comparison LITERALLY when I was obviously just comparing them losing their #1 rankings due to injury as opposed to being equivalent talents dumbass. Anyhow, the only comical thing around here is that you truly believe Crawford beating Horn, Benavidez Jr & Khan makes him a 'better Welterweight' than Thurman who beat no less than 6 Welterweight champions (including the highly rated Porter & Garcia back-to-back before being injured for 18 months)!

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                  #748
                  Christ, you guys really need to get out more.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #749
                    Originally posted by HisExcellency

                    Lol 100m wasn't meant to be taken LITERALLY simpleton...I was using it as an example to show you that a 'handful' of people doesn't necessarily mean just one person (as your previous post alluded too). In other words, 100,000 is a small handful of 100 million TARD!
                    Right but you do know how data works, don't you? You can't just make statements and then use made up data out of thin air to justify your stance you stupid cunt

                    99.9%, 100 million, 100,000 these are all fantasy made up numbers meaning your point is moot.

                    Thurman's not a big puncher mate, sorry. Sorry that seems to offend you. Plenty agree, maybe even 100,000 Who knows.

                    I've explained to you as to why he's not a big puncher and if you can't accept it then move on.



                    Originally posted by HisExcellency
                    ​Again, trust you to take the Woods/Thurman comparison LITERALLY when I was obviously just comparing them losing their #1 rankings due to injury as opposed to being equivalent talents dumbass. Anyhow, the only comical thing around here is that you truly believe Crawford beating Horn, Benavidez Jr & Khan makes him a 'better Welterweight' than Thurman who beat no less than 6 Welterweight champions (including the highly rated Porter & Garcia back-to-back before being injured for 18 months)!
                    Ok but it's a retarded comparison though isn't it, and non sensical. Thus why it's comical.

                    What I believe is totally irrelevant. Thurman was ranked #3, thus objectively NOT the best WW in the world at the time on the basis that 1 and 2 are ahead of 3 in a ranking system.

                    I cannot make that easier to understand at this point. If you'd like to deny objective reality then go ahead.

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                    • HisExcellency
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                      #750
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      Right but you do know how data works, don't you? You can't just make statements and then use made up data out of thin air to justify your stance you stupid cunt

                      99.9%, 100 million, 100,000 these are all fantasy made up numbers meaning your point is moot.

                      Thurman's not a big puncher mate, sorry. Sorry that seems to offend you. Plenty agree, maybe even 100,000 Who knows.

                      I've explained to you as to why he's not a big puncher and if you can't accept it then move on.
                      Man...you're so dumb I actually feel sorry for you. Firstly, I said that you were probably the ONLY person on Earth who doesn't believe that Thurman was a puncher. I then changed this to 'handful' because there's a handful of idiots in this thread who believe that Crawford has a better Welterweight CV than Pacquiao. You then asked why I said handful as opposed to just your dumbass to which I pulled out the 100 million EXAMPLE to demonstrate that even a ridiculously large number like that can have a small handful. That's it...nothing more nothing less.

                      As for Thurman, YES he is a big puncher. Anybody who's dropped/stopped 25/31 opponents he's beaten is a puncher especially when almost all of the others he failed to put a dent in went the distance with MANY other top Welterweights too and were stopped only in the final fight of their careers.

                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Ok but it's a retarded comparison though isn't it, and non sensical. Thus why it's comical.

                      What I believe is totally irrelevant. Thurman was ranked #3, thus objectively NOT the best WW in the world at the time on the basis that 1 and 2 are ahead of 3 in a ranking system.

                      I cannot make that easier to understand at this point. If you'd like to deny objective reality then go ahead.
                      Lol it's only a nonsensical comparison to a retard like you who DOESN'T believe that Thurman was a puncher! At the end of the day, we both know that those rankings are meaningless because Crawford received an elevated ranking due to being the undisputed Light Welterweight champion plus Thurman's ranking was affected by his 18 month lay-off. In other words, just because he was ranked #3 DOESN'T mean he was the 3rd best Welterweight at the time due to the reasons stated above.

                      Anyway, I've made my point so will just leave it there. As the old saying goes 'never argue with an IDIOT, they will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!'

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