Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #221
    Originally posted by djtmal

    For what just respond to how the ts put it

    Did Crawford get 5 votes yet
    I explained why. Because we can’t answer a question about resumes if we don’t discuss the complete resumes.

    You should’ve minded your own business and let the TS answer.

    Instead, as you always do, you jumped in to play pole smoking Capt Sav a Hoe for Manny because I asked about his losses.

    You like to make excuses for all his losses because he isn’t undefeated like a couple of better ww’s are. That they are black bothers you a great deal.
    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-21-2025, 04:54 PM.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #222
      Originally posted by djtmal

      Explain why Floyd boy

      You probably lying anyway
      Well, I know you can't read a basic English book but I think the fact I've stated the answer is Pacquaio, and easily, speaks for itself but if you want me to elaborate as to why that is it's because Pacquaio's resume at WW is a lot stronger than Crawford's is.

      He beat more more ranked fighters, he beat more HOF'ers/ATG's, he beat P4P ranked fighters, more elite fighters at the weight such as Cotto, Marquez and Bradley x2 just to start to which Crawford's only win over an elite fighter at the weight is Spence.

      That's why.

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        #223
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        Well, I know you can't read a basic English book but I think the fact I've stated the answer is Pacquaio, and easily, speaks for itself but if you want me to elaborate as to why that is it's because Pacquaio's resume at WW is a lot stronger than Crawford's is.

        He beat more more ranked fighters, he beat more HOF'ers/ATG's, he beat P4P ranked fighters, more elite fighters at the weight such as Cotto, Marquez and Bradley x2 just to start to which Crawford's only win over an elite fighter at the weight is Spence.

        That's why.
        This is why I think an analysis needs to be done and losses factored in.

        I stated if it is only name value wins, it’s Manny. But how can anyone credit the ODH win over any ww win Crawford has given the context that fight took place.

        Did he beat JMM at 147? I thought he beat him at 135 and 140, but lost at 147. I could be wrong.

        I refuse to factor in the fake Bradley loss and the Ugas loss was understandable.

        Now Floyd and Horn are definitely factored in.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-21-2025, 05:02 PM.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #224
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          This is why I think an analysis needs to be done and losses factored in.

          I stated if it is only name value wins, it’s Manny. But how can anyone credit the ODH win over any ww win Crawford has given the context that fight took place.

          Did he beat JMM at 147? I thought he beat him at 135 and 140, but lost at 147. I could be wrong.

          I refuse to factor in the fake Bradley loss and the Ugas loss was understandable.

          Now Floyd and Horn are definitely factored in.
          Marquez 3 in 2011 was at Welterweight so he has one win over him at Welterweight and one win over him at 130 in 2008.
          Last edited by IronDanHamza; 04-21-2025, 06:06 PM.

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            #225
            Originally posted by The D3vil

            You really are a lunatic
            You are indoctrinated into believing Pac has a decent resume.

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            • djtmal
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              #226
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              I explained why. Because we can’t answer a question about resumes if we don’t discuss the complete resumes.

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              The thread said who had a better career at welterweight

              That would be Manny

              Did anyone actually attend Crawford's welterweight fights I thought Arum said Crawford didn't sell

              Bob Arum On Terence Crawford: “We’ve Lost Money On Every Fight”

              Last edited by djtmal; 04-22-2025, 05:18 AM.

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              • djtmal
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                #227
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza



                "Who gives a shit" to the rankings that rank where the fighters are, you ask? You can't just say someone is the best because you feel like it, facts don't care about your feelings
                It's not my feeling it is what it is.

                Thurman was the unified champ never lost either belt in the ring when Manny beat him. That is a fact son.

                You live your life through boxrec

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                • djtmal
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  Well, I know you can't read a basic English book but I think the fact I've stated the answer is Pacquaio, and easily, speaks for itself but if you want me to elaborate as to why that is it's because Pacquaio's resume at WW is a lot stronger than Crawford's is.

                  He beat more more ranked fighters, he beat more HOF'ers/ATG's, he beat P4P ranked fighters, more elite fighters at the weight such as Cotto, Marquez and Bradley x2 just to start to which Crawford's only win over an elite fighter at the weight is Spence.

                  That's why.
                  Just answer the f'king questions the way I asked and keep your little snide remarks to yourself

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                  • djtmal
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                    I stated if it is only name value wins, it’s Manny. But how can anyone credit the ODH win over any ww win Crawford has given the context that fight took place.

                    Given the context that the fight took place yeah right.

                    Like i said before.

                    If you want to say Oscar was shopworn ok but otherwise Manny beat the brakes off Oscar and the fight was at ww

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                    • Century Tuna
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                      #230
                      Crawford easily clears. The gap in skill and opposition level is embarrassing, Crawford’s resume is elite, while Pacquiao built his legacy off washed-up, over-the-hill champs while juiced to the gills. Every so-called legend Pacquiao beat? Crawford would dismantle them without breaking a sweat. And as for Mayweather? Crawford would give him a masterclass in boxing. Not even close.

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