Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

[djtmal]

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0 ranked wins in 28 months, NOT the #1 .

On paper maybe or in your fantasy rankings but the truth is he was the guy to beat

[djtmal]

Right so he WASN'T unified champion then in 2019, was he? y.

He didn't have to be he had two belts stripped of one never lost it in the ring so he was still the guy

[IronDanHamza]

On paper maybe or in your fantasy rankings but the truth is he was the guy to beat

Are you honestly retarded? Like, genuinely? Because if you are like legally retarded I'll stop because it's sad, I thought you were just extremely dim and more than likely inbred.

What do you mean "fantasy rankings" they are THE RANKINGS, dumbass They're on the internet, you can look them up you stupid cunt.

"On paper maybe" what do you mean "MAYBE"? There is no "maybe" it's a literal fact. HE WASN'T #1 in 2019. You do know that's a fact, don't you? That's why when you say he was ranked #1, that's a lie, because, he wasn't, he was ranked #3.

You can't just pick and chose where someone in ranked They're either ranked there or they're not.

And Keith Thurman was ranked #3. Realistically he was lucky to even be in the Top 10 as he hadn't had a ranked win in 28 months. Most fighters would have been removed from the rankings by that point.

[TheProudLunatic]

Lol. Crawford still hasn't beat anyone as accomplished as Manny and he's pushing 40.

Arum knew better than to match them up.
Between 2015 to Ugas, Pac was fed 99% bum
May (L)
Timmeh 3 ( W )
Vargas (who ?!?!?)
HORN (L....CPGW)
Lucas (W )
Broner (W )
Sometime (Eh....Pac FINALLY fought a semi active fighter with a pedigree)
Ugas (L )

Bud, in that same timeframe.....
Dulorme...no worse than Broner, when Pac fought him
Jean and Lundy were trash.
Postol > Vargas and Lucas (teehee)
Shot Molina = Horn, more or less
Diaz (who ?!?!?)
Indongo. Was a hype job for 15 minutes = Ugas. With more hype.
Up to this point, Bob is trying to get the publics attention of Bud.
Like Pac, Bud is doing to his opps what Pac usually did to his no hopewrs.

They picked up the pace significantly since -
Benny Jr
Shot Khan (I'd pick him to beat the Broner Pac fought)
Egidijus (Meh)
Shot Brook (I'd pick him to beat 90% of the WW's Pac fought)
Porter (Would show HORN what roughhousing really looks like)
Avanesyan (mEH)
Spence (Say what you want. This version of Spence sweeps up 99% of everyone Pac fought...Including Pac.)

And this guy.....

Tough guy
Won't ever rise above that

A road more difficult that the one Pac was on BY FAR !!!
Bob didn't last this long by putting his cash cow at risk.

[IronDanHamza]

He didn't have to be he had two belts stripped of one never lost it in the ring so he was still the guy

Right, so we've established he wasn't unified champion in 2019 then.

So you can stop lying and saying that he was.

[The Big Dunn]

Aw two whole things huh

Unifying all 4 belts in the division and beating the #1 ranked ww are huge things Manny never accomplished.

Sorry but facts are facts.

[djtmal]

Also by that logic then Floyd

Fk Floyd Thurman was the guy. Floyd ducked him. He was a puncher. Shopworn Manny stepped up and gave him a fight. Manny beat him his last hurrah.

[The Big Dunn]

Thurman unified vs prime opposition why you think Floyd ducked him

Stop pivoting to something not relevant to the post made. Thurman didn’t unify in the ring. He got elevated.

Thurman barely beat Danny then didn’t fight for almost 2 years.

During that time Crawford won the WBO title moving up and defended it 2x. Spence won the IBF title and defended it 2 or 3 times.

Thurman was never the best ww in the world at any point. Stop pretending he was just to try and make Manny’s win over him better.

You can’t escape facts just by parsing them out of your replies.

[IronDanHamza]

Fk Floyd Thurman was the guy. Floyd ducked him. He was a puncher. Shopworn Manny stepped up and gave him a fight. Manny beat him his last hurrah.

Ok but you do realize the same argument you're attempting to make for Thurman is the exact opposite to your example that you brought up about Floyd not being P4P #1 in 2009 when he came back?

So you do know that's a double standard and quite literally kills your own point you've tried to make

[djtmal]

Oh right yeah it "didn't make sense" for Pacquaio to fight Crawford who was P4P #2 at the time and WW #2 at the time but it did make sense to fight Thurman who hadn't beaten a ranked fighter in 28 months, was #3 at WW and wasn't even in the P4P list (and never has been)

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It made all the sense in the world for Manny to fight Thurman. Thurman was the best and most complete ww, plus he was universally recognized as the guy to beat at ww. Plus he was far more marketable than Crawford. He beat Crawford and will be carrying the whole promotion. He beat Crawford and still will go into debt