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  • Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

    Lol Spence fought Thurman’s leftovers e.g. Garcia & Porter AFTER Keith had already handled business which tells you everything.

    As for Pacquiao, his CV and career achievements speak for themself. He started his career 22lbs LIGHTER than Floyd yet conquered more weight classes (8 vs. 5) for longer (4 decades vs. 3). Your DELUSIONAL & laughable take on his CV is about as useful as used toilet paper after diarrhoea!
    1) Spence crushes everyone Pac fought, except May.

    2) Let's take a look .....
    Shopworn Eric 3x
    Shopworn Marco 2x
    Decent W's
    Typical plodding, 1 gear, face first types
    Ditto JMM 2x
    Perfect Pac opp.
    Willing to stand there and trade !

    Now for the hysterical portion of his resume. The portion too painful for you to discuss IN DETAIL -

    DONE La Hoya (absolutely the worst version)
    Hatton (May did it 1st. Hatton never amounted to anything other than a fan favorite)
    Cotto Lite (the worst version and this is not up for debate)
    Clottey (typical journeyman)
    Margarito (worst version)
    Mosley (worst version)
    JMM 3 & 4 ( 4x ?!?!?)
    Timmeh 3x ( 3x ?!?!?!)
    Baby Margarito ( Brandon Rios on Pacquiao loss: I was never hurt, but Manny was too fast)
    Alcherry
    May ( who's older than Pac with 2 damaged fists. Pac losing so many times before their fight is Pac's fault. They could have fought much sooner if Pac agreed to RANDOM BLOOD tests )
    Vargas ( )
    HORN (CPGW) !!!!
    Lucas (See Vargas)
    Almost Bumlevel
    Sometime (after a 15 mon layoff to let some booboos heal from a previous fight. Pac's best WW W, thanks to a flash KD)
    Basic AF Ugas.

    So tell me, which of the above fights is supposed to impress me

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    • Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post

      1) Spence crushes everyone Pac fought, except May.

      2) Let's take a look .....
      Shopworn Eric 3x
      Shopworn Marco 2x
      Decent W's
      Typical plodding, 1 gear, face first types
      Ditto JMM 2x
      Perfect Pac opp.
      Willing to stand there and trade !

      Now for the hysterical portion of his resume. The portion too painful for you to discuss IN DETAIL -

      DONE La Hoya (absolutely the worst version)
      Hatton (May did it 1st. Hatton never amounted to anything other than a fan favorite)
      Cotto Lite (the worst version and this is not up for debate)
      Clottey (typical journeyman)
      Margarito (worst version)
      Mosley (worst version)
      JMM 3 & 4 ( 4x ?!?!?)
      Timmeh 3x ( 3x ?!?!?!)
      Baby Margarito ( Brandon Rios on Pacquiao loss: I was never hurt, but Manny was too fast)
      Alcherry
      May ( who's older than Pac with 2 damaged fists. Pac losing so many times before their fight is Pac's fault. They could have fought much sooner if Pac agreed to RANDOM BLOOD tests )
      Vargas ( )
      HORN (CPGW) !!!!
      Lucas (See Vargas)
      Almost Bumlevel
      Sometime (after a 15 mon layoff to let some booboos heal from a previous fight. Pac's best WW W, thanks to a flash KD)
      Basic AF Ugas.

      So tell me, which of the above fights is supposed to impress me
      Now do the SAME type of analysis on both Crawford & Mayweather’s CV’s and I’ll reply…

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      • Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

        Now do the SAME type of analysis on both Crawford & Mayweather’s CV’s and I’ll reply…
        I don't have a problem with theirs
        You do

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        • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

          Speaking of washed up, over the hill champs, wasn't that Crawford I saw in the ring getting his hand raised for beating Amir Khan with a low blow
          Lmao the glass-chinned Indian ran off. Everyone knows he quit. Just looking for an excuse before Crawford folded him like a lawn chair.

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          • Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post

            I don't have a problem with theirs
            You do
            Ahahahahahahahaha!

            Crawford's Welterweight CV:-

            Spence (post life-changing car crash & years of hard partying. Only fought TWICE in the 3.5 years preceding their fight)
            Porter (post 3 losses)
            Khan (post 4 losses & 3 KO's)
            Brook (post 2 KO's and having both eye sockets broken)
            Benavidez Jr (BUM)
            Avenesyan (BUM)
            Mean Machine (BUM)
            Horn (BUM - this bum got a hometown decision against Manny who outlanded him 11 rounds to 1 and 182 vs. 92 punches overall according to CompuBox)

            Yep...Bud definitely has the BETTER CV at Welterweight!
            Last edited by HisExcellency; 04-25-2025, 03:40 AM.

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            • Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

              Ahahahahahahahaha!

              Crawford's Welterweight CV:-

              Spence (post life-changing car crash & years of hard partying. Only fought TWICE in the 3.5 years preceding their fight)
              Porter (post 3 losses)
              Khan (post 4 losses & 3 KO's)
              Brook (post 2 KO's and having both eye sockets broken)
              Benavidez Jr (BUM)
              Avenesyan (BUM)
              Mean Machine (BUM)
              Horn (BUM - this bum got a hometown decision against Manny who outlanded him 11 rounds to 1 and 182 vs. 92 punches overall according to CompuBox)

              Yep...Bud definitely has the BETTER CV at Welterweight!
              Spence > Everyone Pac fought, except May

              HORN would agree

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              • Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

                Porter (post 3 losses)
                Pac opps that Porter would beat -
                Rios
                Alcherry
                Vargas
                Lucas
                Almost Bumlevel
                Hatton
                HORN
                DONE la Hoya
                Clottey
                JMM
                Margarito

                Maybe Ugas​

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                • Pac opps Brook would beat -
                  Rios
                  Almost Bumlevel
                  Lucas
                  Vargas
                  DONE La Hoya
                  Margarito
                  Hatton
                  HORN
                  Alcherry
                  Mosley
                  Clottey

                  Maybe Cotto LITE and Ugas

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                  • How so called fight fans and experts say Pac has a great resume is baffling.
                    Name recognition only.
                    No one questions the quality of those names WHEN Pac fought them !

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                    • Mayweather's CV

                      Castillo 1 (Mayweather clearly LOST the fight and the CompuBox punch stats were 203 vs. 157 in Castillo's favour)
                      Gatti (post 6 losses & 2 KO's at the end of his career)
                      Judah (post 3 losses & 1 KO plus Judah dropped Mayweather which wasn't counted)
                      ODLH (post 4 losses & 1 KO and a SD win for Mayweather which even his own daddy said he LOST)
                      Hatton (beat Ricky in only his 2nd fight at Welterweight instead of destroying him in his natural weight class like Manny)
                      JMM (post 4 losses and multiple knockdowns by Pacquiao. Mayweather fought him at a catchweight but decided to come in heavier himself)
                      Mosley (post 5 losses yet Mosley almost decapitated Mayweather in the 2nd round. Imagine what he would've done in his prime?)
                      Ortiz (post 1 KO and cheated to get the victory after taking advantage of Victor's sportsmanship to get the KO)
                      Cotto (post 2 losses & 2 KO's)
                      Guerrero (post 1 loss and an average fighter at best)
                      Canelo (fought a green 23yo Canelo at a catchweight)
                      Maidana 1 (post 3 losses and a MD win for Mayweather which he arguably lost given that the CompuBox punch stats were narrowly (230 vs. 221) in his favour)
                      Pacquiao (post 5 losses and 3 KO's after avoiding him in his prime when he was dangerous a decade earlier)
                      Berto (post 3 losses and 1 KO and an average fighter at best)
                      McGregor (never boxed a day in his life lmao)

                      Did I miss anyone?

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