Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

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He wants people to view ODH the same way even though hadn’t been at ww in 8 years.

But he wants Manny to be seen as past it for every fight after JMM.

Manny beat the brakes off the same shopworn Oscar that Floyd pops thought Floyd lost to.

Manny beat the same shopworn version of Mosley that Floyd beat.

Overall career vs. Crawford it would be Manny. He peaked at ww beating the brakes off Oscar in a mega ppv event and his prime ended at the Marquez ko. Opposition, ppv Manny all day.

Thats just what it is.

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But he wants Manny to be seen as past it for every fight after JMM.

Its not what I want its what it is:

Manny had 61 total fights 5 losses including being ko'd 3x post Marquez. He was well past his prime son.

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Manny beat the brakes off the same shopworn Oscar that Floyd pops thought Floyd lost to.

Manny beat the same shopworn version of Mosley that Floyd beat.

Overall career vs. Crawford it would be Manny. He peaked at ww beating the brakes off Oscar in a mega ppv event and his prime ended at the Marquez ko. Opposition, ppv Manny all day.

Thats just what it is.

Thread is about Crawford v Manny resume wise. Not Floyd stay on topic. But let’s end this once and for all.

Floyd v ODH May 2007 @ 154lbs
Manny v ODH Dec 2008 @ 147 lbs

Clearly different ODH’s because ODH was draining down to 147 from 154. ODH hadn’t fought at 147 in 8 years.

Floyd v Shane May 2010 @ 147bs
Manny v Shane May 2011 @ 147lbs

Clearly different Shane -drained from coming down from fighting Mora at 160lbs in Sept 2010.

Question is about ww, not overall career. For someone that keeps whining about parameter changes atop changing the parameters.

Conveniently for his pole smoking fans like you, his prime allegedly ended after he ducked Floyd for JMM 4 for $12 mil less.

He was fine when he lost to Floyd. The smiling selfie on the walk to the ring showed this.

At ww, Crawford unified the 4 belts. Manny didn’t. Crawford beat Horn, Manny didn’t. Manny had the name value for sure- but the names were all well past it, other than Thurman ( who was never that good if we hold him to the “did nothing after the loss “ standard you said about Spence).

Finally, let us not forget, Manny kept refusing to fight Crawford.

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lol that pole smoker hypocrite is nauseating.

Says the 69,000+ post Floyd caped crusader.

Bro you helping your boy Bud with his Marketing image.

He need your help bad you know he can't sell a fight to save his life.

Share some of those Floyd attention whore buck dancing strategies so your boy can get his profile up.

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Clearly different ODH’s because ODH was draining down to 147 from 154. ODH hadn’t fought at 147 in 8 years.

Excuses it was no issues until Oscar got the brakes beat off him.

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Clearly different Shane -drained from coming down from fighting Mora at 160lbs in Sept 2010.

Question is about ww, not overall career. For someone that keeps whining about parameter changes atop changing the parameters.

Conveniently for his pole smoking fans like you, his prime allegedly ended after he ducked Floyd for JMM 4 for $12 mil less.

At ww, Crawford unified the 4 belts. Manny didn’t. Crawford beat Horn, Manny didn’t. Manny had the name value for sure- but the names were all well past it, other than Thurman ( who was never that good if we hold him to the “did nothing after the loss “ standard you said about Spence).

Finally, let us not forget, Manny kept refusing to fight Crawford.

Manny beat the same version of Mosley Illegalivweather beat. Manny got a kd where Illegalivweather couldn't, but they get the same amount of credit about 40%. Shane was beyond over the hill.

Manny had 61 total fights 5 losses including being ko'd 3x post Marquez. He was well past his prime son for illegalivweather and anything after that.

Nobody is saying Crawford didn't do anything at ww he did do a couple of things, but Manny just had the far better career resumewise, ppvwise, and any other wise you care to mention.

Crawford didn't sell @ ww needs to put in more work to get to Manny's level. Make that fight with Ennis.

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Floyd v ODH May 2007 @ 154lbs
Manny v ODH Dec 2008 @ 147 lbs

Manny was in the lightweight division one fight prior, moved up two weight classes try again.

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Clearly different ODH’s because ODH was draining down to 147 from 154. ODH hadn’t fought at 147 in 8 years.

You would be better off saying Oscar was over the hill instead of using this flimsy excuse

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Thread is about Crawford v Manny resume wise..

The thread says clearly, who has the better Career at ww. Career encompasses more than just their won loss record.

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Finally, let us not forget, Manny kept refusing to fight Crawford.

Manny fought Thurman. Same caliber fighter, except Thurman actually sells.