Cotto was not good at 154

[djtmal]

that was against clottey, in which cotto won. guess he wasnt drained then, only when he loss to pacman, he was drained.

Lol. That's usually how it goes

[billeau2]

He was getting too big for 147 but his frame was too small for 154 and 160

His power wasn't as heavy and didn't have the skills to overcome the deficit to be truly elite at those weight divisions

His best wins were against crippled fighters or damage goods (Yuri Foreman, Mayorga, Margarito, Martinez) he was very fortunate to win those titles

Perhaps its good karma for the beating he got from Marg

This is were we can really see the flaw in the logic of looking at a slice of a career and making big judgements. If we look at Cotto carefully and assume your post has some truth... Then one must ask: What is a better gauge of ability? winning fights against some tough fighters who all had foibles? Or losing close, tight fights to two great fighters at 154?

Edit: I should qualify: I meant "two competative fights."

[paulf]

I've never heard anyone say much of anything good about Cotto at 154. His prime was 140.

[IceTrayDaGang]

fools claimed that cotto was drained vs pac but then says pac wasnt washed when floyd fought him. if pac dont get the full credit for beating cotto at 145 then floyd aint getting the same credit for beating a shop worn pac that got knocked out by marquez.

[djtmal]

fools claimed that cotto was drained vs pac but then says pac wasnt washed when floyd fought him. if pac dont get the full credit for beating cotto at 145 then floyd aint getting the same credit for beating a shop worn pac that got knocked out by marquez.

Floyd don't get much credit for beating a shopworn Manny anyways

Cotto and Oscar were 100% ready to go before the fight, after is when the excuses started flying

[The Big Dunn]

that was against clottey, in which cotto won. guess he wasnt drained then, only when he loss to pacman, he was drained.

He was 145, same 2 lb cw as canelo, who you said was drained.

[The Big Dunn]

fools claimed that cotto was drained vs pac but then says pac wasnt washed when floyd fought him. if pac dont get the full credit for beating cotto at 145 then floyd aint getting the same credit for beating a shop worn pac that got knocked out by marquez.

You’re lying.

Manny fans claim canelo was drained at 152 and Manny was shopworn because of the JMM ko loss.

Applying that logic equally and fairly, Cotto at 145 was drained and Hatton was shopworn because he got ktfo by Floyd before Manny beat him.

This would mean Manny doesn’t get credit for Hatton unless you guys give Floyd full credit for beating Manny.

You guys are incredibly biased and inconsistent.

[IceTrayDaGang]

He was 145, same 2 lb cw as canelo, who you said was drained.

difference is, cotto fought clottey at 146 prior to fighting pac at 145.... can you say the same for canelo?????!!!!!!! also floyd tried to bring Canelo down to 147.

[The Big Dunn]

that was against clottey, in which cotto won. guess he wasnt drained then, only when he loss to pacman, he was drained.

Stop being dishonest. You claim Canelo was drained at 152. cool. If I claim Cotto was drained at 145, how can you possibly complain?

Come on dude. Apply your logic equally to every boxer. Dont use faulty logic just to discredit Floyd’s performance instead of.

That’s weak.

[The Big Dunn]

difference is, cotto fought clottey at 146 prior to fighting pac at 145.... can you say the same for canelo?????!!!!!!! also floyd tried to bring Canelo down to 147.

There is no difference. Come on dude have some credibility and integrity.

2lbs is 2lbs. You can’t just use it to discredit Floyd and pretend it has no impact on hen Manny fights.