Cotto was not good at 154

[IceTrayDaGang]

cotto is stuck in between 147 and 154.... at 147, he's usually the bigger guy compared to his opponents... at 154, he becomes the smaller guy.

[Spray_resistant]

it was an ok win nothing wrong with that but for fans to portray it as a top level win? it wasnt and if 154 cotto is one of your top level wins your career prob wasnt too good then. floyd has a lot of wins much better than that and even i know that and i dont like him

It was one of Floyd more competitive fights too against a far more dimished fighter that peak Pac steamrolled. At 154 he cherrypicks Yuri Foreman who hurts his leg so Cotto can get a meaningless trinket, loses to Austin Trout, later beats crippled Sergio Martinez for the lineal MW title at a catch weight if i remember 158 so we're going to lump that into his 154lb run.

[daggum]

Who cares about ranking? What were the fighters he fought at that weight? Typical a s s backwards way of looking at things. I do not even know who he fought at that weight but do know he took tough fights. in typical duhgum fashion you have isolated a small part of his career and used nonsense to justify a conclusion. Why do you feel such a need to disparage fighters? Cotto was a beast.

Who cares what he was ranked by alphabet soup? YOU DO!!!

the known fighters were: trout, floyd, canelo. he lost them all. he also lost to sadam ali.

then how can you say he was good? lol

he spent about 7 years at 154, a small part of his career?

im not disparaging him at all. someone made a comment about cotto being a great win at 154. it wasnt. i laid out my reasons. what you are doing is called fanboying. thats when you defend anything uncritically. you didnt even bother to list who he beat instead saying who cares.

the ring is not an alphabet soup belt. do you even understand the terms you use?

[daggum]

It was one of Floyd more competitive fights too against a far more dimished fighter that peak Pac steamrolled. At 154 he cherrypicks Yuri Foreman who hurts his leg so Cotto can get a meaningless trinket, loses to Austin Trout, later beats crippled Sergio Martinez for the lineal MW title at a catch weight if i remember 158 so we're going to lump that into his 154lb run.

sergio fight was at 159 so thats basically 160. i have no idea why he did that. it just makes him look silly and pedantic.

[Spray_resistant]

sergio fight was at 159 so thats basically 160. i have no idea why he did that. it just makes him look silly and pedantic.

Kind of Sergio's fault for going into that fight for the payday against Cotto when he had no business in the ring hobbling around.

[daggum]

Kind of Sergio's fault for going into that fight for the payday against Cotto when he had no business in the ring hobbling around.

well i would have done the same and taken the big money but i think the sergio from the martin murray fight probably beats cotto even though he should have lost that fight, but the sergio that fought cotto was much worse

[Spray_resistant]

well i would have done the same and taken the big money but i think the sergio from the martin murray fight probably beats cotto even though he should have lost that fight, but the sergio that fought cotto was much worse

Truly a cash out since he was 39 I think with bad legs so time to sell that lineal title, it was I would imagine his biggest single payday.

[pretty boy_]

ah well in that case great win boys! you beat a guy who has a sh-it resume but because you said he was good that proves it. or in other words "dont believe your lying eyes" "dont believe the facts" as if floyd didnt have an agenda to saying that? he ducked cotto for years until finally facing him, its not surprising he said that in order to give himself more credit. narcissist alert! and canelo saying cotto was tougher than floyd who easily beat him? ok....why are you listening to these bozos and believing them? they have no credibility. thats why we use the stats and cotto wasnt good. if you replaced him and stuck in average joe with the same resume at 154 no one would care or think highly of him

Yes, Canelo said Cotto was tougher than Floyd but that was simply because it took him a long time to accept the Mayweather defeat. He personally blamed the weight and inexperience at the the top level for losing that fight. It wasn't until years later that he admitted that he felt great in the Mayweather fight and it was him that actually offered the 152 weight limit. But all that doesn't change the fact that he had a rough night with Cotto. In fact Mayweather and Canelo's faces were busted up after fighting Cotto.

As for the other bolded part, there was never a Mayweather/Cotto fight on the table back in their 140/147 days. And in my opinion Cotto was deathly afraid of Mayweather at 140 after witnessing what he did to Gatti first hand up close and personal.

[djtmal]

As for the other bolded part, there was never a Mayweather/Cotto fight on the table back in their 140/147 days. And in my opinion Cotto was deathly afraid of Mayweather at 140 after witnessing what he did to Gatti first hand up close and personal.

Cotto called Floyd out when he was still undefeated at 147

[daggum]

Yes, Canelo said Cotto was tougher than Floyd but that was simply because it took him a long time to accept the Mayweather defeat. He personally blamed the weight and inexperience at the the top level for losing that fight. It wasn't until years later that he admitted that he felt great in the Mayweather fight and it was him that actually offered the 152 weight limit. But all that doesn't change the fact that he had a rough night with Cotto. In fact Mayweather and Canelo's faces were busted up after fighting Cotto.

As for the other bolded part, there was never a Mayweather/Cotto fight on the table back in their 140/147 days. And in my opinion Cotto was deathly afraid of Mayweather at 140 after witnessing what he did to Gatti first hand up close and personal.

and thats precisely why we dont take what they say seriously. they are personally invested and have political agendas behind their words.

cotto floyd was one of the biggest fights in boxing at 147. floyd literally retired instead of fighting cotto.

maybe he was but if we look at the evidence we know floyd was deathly afraid of cotto at 147 when he was one of the top fighters in boxing and thats why he didnt fight him. thats why he made up excuse after excuse not to fight him. he said cotto lives too far away...wat? he said cotto was not a ppv star...but baldomir was? he said he wouldnt work with top rank even though when floyd was with top rank he turned down a deal that would have included a cotto fight, so he cant fight him when hes with top rank and he cant fight him when hes not? also we know floyd happily worked with top rank when pac was over the hill so he was full of crap about not working with them, it was just an excuse. oh yeah and then he literally fake retired until cotto lost and the heat to fight him had dissipated. it was one of the biggest ducks ever. on par with canelo-benavidez.