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  • Spray_resistant
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    #121
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

    You don’t go by just age.

    Yeah, let’s just ignore that Narvaez was almost 40.

    Meanwhile I’ve seen Inoue fans trying to hate on Bam Rodriguez beating Sor Rungvisai, Cuadras, and Gallo Estrada because they were old.

    It’s that hypocrisy and double standards that people dislike about you guys.
    Inoue was a young wet behind the ears kid who just started his pro career and demolished a long standing champion, in fact at the time the longest standing champion in boxing no less. Lets compare it to someone like Andrade who after the Olympics didn't step up from C level comp until he was a decade and a half into his career.

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    • eco1
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      #122
      Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

      Name them !
      Read my sig and come back and tell me why all of that changed....

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      • Elheath
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        #123
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        You don’t go by just age.

        Yeah, let’s just ignore that Narvaez was almost 40.

        Meanwhile I’ve seen Inoue fans trying to hate on Bam Rodriguez beating Sor Rungvisai, Cuadras, and Gallo Estrada because they were old.

        It’s that hypocrisy and double standards that people dislike about you guys.
        Off topic but every time I see that grouping it makes me irritated as Cuadras absolutely doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside Estrada or even SSR in regards to Bam's opponent. The whole "4 Kings of 115" (below the reigning Emperor that was Inoue at the time) doesn't change the fact that Cuadras, despite being lumped together he's always been by far the weakest link of the four and a tier or two below Chocolatito, Estrada or peak SSR.

        First of all age certainly matters, but even moreso being a current champion and where they were rated among their peers in the same division at the time matters more. My personal dislike for his inactivity the last few years aside, Estrada even at age 34 was the current champion for 3 years and still considered the universal no. 1 guy of the division at the time Bam crushed him last year, just like age 39 Narvaez was considered the universal no. 1 guy and the long term reigning champion at 115 when Inoue crushed him. Estrada may be inactive as hell and definitely was holding the division stagnant by not fighting more often for which he deserves criticism separate from his skills, but anyone who's trying to claim Estrada's ability as a boxer was already washed when Bam defeated him doesn't know crap **** about that division.

        Cuadras by the time Bam defeated him in 2022 was still 33 yrs old which was physically younger than Estrada when he fought Bam, but was SIX years removed from being a beltholder and also just 4-4 in those six years leading up to the fight. Starting from his loss to Chocolatito in 2016 to lose his belt, he then lost to Estrada followed by another loss to McWilliams Arroyo, then most recently coming off a KO loss to Estrada again, and had a 16 month layoff in between as well. Overall his last win prior to the Bam fight was a MD win a whoppin' 29 month ago against the almighty Jose Maria Cardenas (who...?).

        Compared to Cuadras, SSR was atleast a world champion as of only three years prior to his loss to Bam. In a way he was the opposite of Cuadras in that he was a relatively late peak bloomer (even if he was still good enough to win a world title earlier), but more importantly during that peak in his age 30-31 time SSR was the absolute best of the Four Kings where he defeated a still in his prime Chocolatito twice followed by age 29 Estrada. He ended up losing his rematch against Estrada about a year later, but he was still closer to his career peak time compared to Cuadras.

        Overall it really isn't a fault of Bam at all but more so that Cuadras is overrated as a whole. As of right now I'd say Bam's best wins are easily Estrada then Sunny Edwards, a distant third place is SSR, and a tier below that Cuadras can be thrown in along with the likes of Guevara IMO.

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        • TheProudLunatic
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          #124
          Originally posted by eco1

          Read my sig and come back and tell me why all of that changed....
          As per..........

          "Canelo Fans before Bivol's fight -

          1st Bivol, then Beterbiev and then Usyk! Easy work!

          After reality hits them and now the number 1 excuse:

          Canelo is too small for 175."

          And yet, Plant is all Benny has

          Nelo - 5'7"
          Biv - 6'
          Beter - 6'
          Benny - 6' 2"


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          • TheProudLunatic
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            #125
            Originally posted by FaustoGeraci

            Touch grass you weirdo. You post 300 times a day.
            Aaaaaaaand a stalker exposes himself
            Good job

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            • TheProudLunatic
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              #126
              Originally posted by FaustoGeraci

              About what I would expect from someone with your level of IQ
              You're a pompom waving cheerleader of a shlt collector.

              "He fights ranked fighters ."
              Scull is ranked !!!!!!

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              • JOITATS
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                #127
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll



                Narvaez was damn near 40 years old. Just stop.

                You got no clue what you're talking about! I can tell you just started watching the lowerwgts.
                You can't just discredit a fighter by age, you have to look at their recent performance.

                Narvaez was globally recognized as the top guy at superfly. I remember all the hype surrounding this fight when it happened.
                He had the world record for most successful world title defenses over 10years, 27x, tied with Chavez.
                He was the man, until he got obliterated by the up and coming Monster. Completely blown out.

                Afterwards, Narvaez complained about Inoue's gloves. Thinking there was something illegal in them.
                They checked, and were cleared.



                Also, you wanna talk about age,
                Beterbiev is 40 yrs old, and universally recognized as the P4P top 5 guy by every media source.


                What was your point again?

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                • crimsonfalcon07
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                  #128
                  Wow, 13 pages of troll feeding. The only bum here is the child hiding behind his computer who would never dare set foot in a ring. Don't think that troll has ever said anything positive. There's quite a lot of textbook stuff here. Bro, I hope your life improves so you can find validation in something more than trying to detract from the accomplishments of people who have actually done something with their lives.

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                  • ShoulderRoll
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by JOITATS


                    You got no clue what you're talking about! I can tell you just started watching the lowerwgts.
                    You can't just discredit a fighter by age, you have to look at their recent performance.

                    Narvaez was globally recognized as the top guy at superfly. I remember all the hype surrounding this fight when it happened.
                    He had the world record for most successful world title defenses over 10years, 27x, tied with Chavez.
                    He was the man, until he got obliterated by the up and coming Monster. Completely blown out.

                    Afterwards, Narvaez complained about Inoue's gloves. Thinking there was something illegal in them.
                    They checked, and were cleared.



                    Also, you wanna talk about age,
                    Beterbiev is 40 yrs old, and universally recognized as the P4P top 5 guy by every media source.


                    What was your point again?

                    When the top guy in a division is 40 then that just tells you the overall quality of that division.

                    Some divisions are simply more competitive and deep than others. Just a fact.

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                    • JOITATS
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      When the top guy in a division is 40 then that just tells you the overall quality of that division.

                      Some divisions are simply more competitive and deep than others. Just a fact.

                      huh Fact?

                      So Beterbiev being 40 yrs old, 175 with Bivol and Benevidez is weak?

                      2-3 top p4p guys in 1 division is weak?

                      hilarious...

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