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  • Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post

    You know what. I am man enough to say then I take it back. I didn't know he had a personal history of not likening Manny. But I think he felt he played second fittle to Manny at Top Rank and Bob wouldn't let Crawford school him in the ring IMO. Still never understood why Crawford and Bradley never fought.
    No worries...yeah I think Bud is probably still bitter about playing second fiddle to Manny at Top Rank plus the fact that their superfight never materialised hence the PED accusations. As for Bradley, Timmy retired in 2016 whereas Bud only started competing at Welterweight in 2018 which is why the fight never got made.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      This thread is comical. Crawford really hurt the pac fans with what he said.

      lmfao. It seems a lot of people share the same opinion.
      The funny thing about it is. They both was scared of Manny, but good at taking shots from a safe distance

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        This thread is comical. Crawford really hurt the pac fans with what he said.

        lmfao. It seems a lot of people share the same opinion.
        Bud hasn't upset anyone other than floyd fans. Bud said pac is goat, until proven otherwise, how's that going to upset pac fans?
        Pac never lost power he still hit hard. Algierii took connor benns punches and Pac s and said pac hits harder.
        If floyd didn't duck pac for 6 years, and pac didn't have to wait until he was 36 years old to fight floyd and rendered unconscious by jmm, I'm sure Pac would've koed more after any floyd fight for sure.
        Pac was fighting cautiously after jmm ko, so how is pac supposed to ko anyone?!
        Last edited by hugh grant; 04-02-2025, 02:22 PM.

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        • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

          . Algierii took connor benns punches and Pac s and said pac hits harder.
          !
          no way pac hits harder than eggie benn

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          • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

            I'm with you but I'm just saying if he's not including Pacquaio for what is essentially baseless PED use then surely Floyd should be held to the same standard?
            I get all that but also understand what Terence Crawford said about Pac was only an opinion and not facts. Everyone’s opinion is different and no one shares the same values and opinions all the time.

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            • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
              I get all that but also understand what Terence Crawford said about Pac was only an opinion and not facts. Everyone’s opinion is different and no one shares the same values and opinions all the time.
              I don't disagree but surely consistency should be a standard?

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              • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                Bud hasn't upset anyone other than floyd fans. Bud said pac is goat, until proven otherwise, how's that going to upset pac fans?
                Pac never lost power he still hit hard. Algierii took connor benns punches and Pac s and said pac hits harder.
                If floyd didn't duck pac for 6 years, and pac didn't have to wait until he was 36 years old to fight floyd and rendered unconscious by jmm, I'm sure Pac would've koed more after any floyd fight for sure.
                Pac was fighting cautiously after jmm ko, so how is pac supposed to ko anyone?!
                If you guys weren’t upset, this thread wouldn’t be this long and you wouldn’t have responded to my post.

                It’s hard for you to accept a lot of people think Manny cheated.

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                • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                  The funny thing about it is. They both was scared of Manny, but good at taking shots from a safe distance
                  Floyd beat Manny after Manny ducked him for years. Manny ducked Crawford as well. Neither was scared of him.

                  Manny’s team isn’t as dumb as his idiot pole smoking fans when it comes to matchups.

                  They know Floyd and Crawford are bad matchups for Manny because they have length and movement to negate Manny’s power. They also have great defense and the offense to take advantage of Manny’s many mistakes.

                  They are both bigger, stronger, faster and smarter
                  Than JMM who Manny had issues with.

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                  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                    Floyd beat Manny after Manny ducked him for years. Manny ducked Crawford as well. Neither was scared of him..
                    Floyd ducked Manny. ******** Manny for juicing when he was the one who got popped for illegal iv's when the smoke cleared.

                    We know now Crawford wasn't eager to fight even the kindler gentler version of Manny based on how he can't get past Manny's accomplishments.

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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



                      They know Floyd and Crawford are bad matchups for Manny because they have length and movement to negate Manny’s power. They also have great defense and the offense to take advantage of Manny’s many mistakes.

                      .
                      Who didn't have height and reach on Manny at and above ww

                      It was your boy Floyd who steered away from fighters who had height/reach on him like Williams and Margarito. Amir Khan. Always on vacation or fake retired when it's time to make a fight with those guys.

                      Floyd was cherrypicking stationary targets like Guerrero Ortiz and Madonna
                      Last edited by djtmal; 04-02-2025, 04:08 PM.

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