Let’s call a spade a spade… Is Bivol “ducking” Benavidez?

[SouthpawRight]

Do you honestly think that PBC is where the money is at, or that they could pay Bivol more than the Saudis?? I'm gonna repeat this again. The Saudis make enough passive income in 2 HOURS to match PBC's current market valuation. 2 HOURS. And your figures are wrong from what I've seen. Where are you getting them?



There's a variety of sources, but this one actually collects his past purses, although I'm aware Marca isn't the most reliable source. I'm using it for convenience because I was able to verify the numbers from more reliable sources.

https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/c...3708b459d.html

For those who don't like to click links:

Vs. Artur Beterbiev (October 2024): In a highly anticipated bout for the undisputed light heavyweight championship held in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, both Bivol and Beterbiev were guaranteed a purse of $10 million each. This fight marked the largest payday of Bivol's career to date.

(Note this is far more than the alleged PBC 8 million offer, and doesn't include the first fight either. He's also likely to get more as the undisputed champion now).

Vs. Canelo Álvarez (May 2022): Bivol's unanimous decision victory over the Mexican superstar not only elevated his status in the boxing world but also earned him an estimated $5 million.

Vs. Gilberto 'Zurdo' Ramirez (November 2022): Defending his WBA light heavyweight title, Bivol secured a purse of approximately $2.5 million for this bout.

Vs. Lyndon Arthur (December 2023): Continuing his winning streak, Bivol earned a guaranteed payout of $1.9 million in this matchup.

Vs. Malik Zinad (June 2024): In a fight held in Riyadh, Bivol took home $750,000 after defeating Zinad.

Note that these figures are also repeated in a variety of other sources that might be more credible.

And we've got the intangibles that Turki looks like he wants to destroy the WBC once and for all. So even if Bivol vacates to complete the trilogy, Turki may continue his efforts to leave the WBC on the outside, and, frankly, money talks.

from the same site

His most recent known purses are: Ronald Gavril (2017), almost $400,000, David Lemieux(2022) $350,000 and 60% of the PPV earnings. Caleb Plant (2023), $3,000,000. Olexandr Gvozdyk (2024), $2,000,000

[MulaKO]

Do you honestly think that PBC is where the money is at, or that they could pay Bivol more than the Saudis?? I'm gonna repeat this again. The Saudis make enough passive income in 2 HOURS to match PBC's current market valuation. 2 HOURS. And your figures are wrong from what I've seen. Where are you getting them?



There's a variety of sources, but this one actually collects his past purses, although I'm aware Marca isn't the most reliable source. I'm using it for convenience because I was able to verify the numbers from more reliable sources.

https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/c...3708b459d.html

For those who don't like to click links:

Vs. Artur Beterbiev (October 2024): In a highly anticipated bout for the undisputed light heavyweight championship held in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, both Bivol and Beterbiev were guaranteed a purse of $10 million each. This fight marked the largest payday of Bivol's career to date.

(Note this is far more than the alleged PBC 8 million offer, and doesn't include the first fight either. He's also likely to get more as the undisputed champion now).

Vs. Canelo Álvarez (May 2022): Bivol's unanimous decision victory over the Mexican superstar not only elevated his status in the boxing world but also earned him an estimated $5 million.

Vs. Gilberto 'Zurdo' Ramirez (November 2022): Defending his WBA light heavyweight title, Bivol secured a purse of approximately $2.5 million for this bout.

Vs. Lyndon Arthur (December 2023): Continuing his winning streak, Bivol earned a guaranteed payout of $1.9 million in this matchup.

Vs. Malik Zinad (June 2024): In a fight held in Riyadh, Bivol took home $750,000 after defeating Zinad.

Note that these figures are also repeated in a variety of other sources that might be more credible.

And we've got the intangibles that Turki looks like he wants to destroy the WBC once and for all. So even if Bivol vacates to complete the trilogy, Turki may continue his efforts to leave the WBC on the outside, and, frankly, money talks.

Those sort of numbers make more sense than what $2.7 says about it all
I also read the $10 million was awarded for the rematch

[crimsonfalcon07]

from the same site

His most recent known purses are: Ronald Gavril (2017), almost $400,000, David Lemieux(2022) $350,000 and 60% of the PPV earnings. Caleb Plant (2023), $3,000,000. Olexandr Gvozdyk (2024), $2,000,000

Bear in mind Marca is not considered a reliable source; I just used them because I independently verified the numbers from other sources that aren't considered as unreliable, and they had the numbers in a neat list. They don't generally do their own journalism, so I suspect they got their numbers from others. A broken clock is right twice a day and all that.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

oh rite lol told u im out of the boxing loop!

i find it hard to believe that turki is paying less to his 'brothers' than for example arum was paying shakur for his fights, 3 mil and its for an undisputed fight in saudi, doesnt make any sense to me whatsoever with everyone wants to get on turki cards but he actually paying below market rates huh makes no sense at all

I understand where you're coming from but one thing to consider is that when Bivol fights in the States, he's liable for a federal tax of 30%. Fighting in SA resolves that high tax rate. A big part of the reason why Ginger agreed to fight in SA is to bypass that high tax interest. Only 1 of those 4 fights will happen in US soil... Ginger has been making roughly $35 million per fight for his last 3 or 4 fights that's a lot of money the US government is taking.

American citizens don't get the same luxury that foreigners get in SA. Americans still have to pay the feds their 30% cut. Turki is also paying for the brand value that fighters add to Riyadh and although it might be unfair to Bivol, Shakur's brand has more value than the Bivol Brand. Sadly, that's just the way it is, them Saudi's overpay for Brand names....

[SouthpawRight]

I understand where you're coming from but one thing to consider is that when Bivol fights in the States, he's liable for a federal tax of 30%. Fighting in SA resolves that high tax rate. A big part of the reason why Ginger agreed to fight in SA is to bypass that high tax interest. Only 1 of those 4 fights will happen in US soil... Ginger has been making roughly $35 million per fight for his last 3 or 4 fights that's a lot of money the US government is taking.

American citizens don't get the same luxury that foreigners get in SA. Americans still have to pay the feds their 30% cut. Turki is also paying for the brand value that fighters add to Riyadh and although it might be unfair to Bivol, Shakur's brand has more value than the Bivol Brand. Sadly, that's just the way it is, them Saudi's overpay for Brand names....

Bivol is a US national?

I thought he’s the Russian Empire and Kyrgyz

[MulaKO]

I understand where you're coming from but one thing to consider is that when Bivol fights in the States, he's liable for a federal tax of 30%. Fighting in SA resolves that high tax rate. A big part of the reason why Ginger agreed to fight in SA is to bypass that high tax interest. Only 1 of those 4 fights will happen in US soil... Ginger has been making roughly $35 million per fight for his last 3 or 4 fights that's a lot of money the US government is taking.

American citizens don't get the same luxury that foreigners get in SA. Americans still have to pay the feds their 30% cut. Turki is also paying for the brand value that fighters add to Riyadh and although it might be unfair to Bivol, Shakur's brand has more value than the Bivol Brand. Sadly, that's just the way it is, them Saudi's overpay for Brand names....

Who doesn’t pay for brand names , honestly ???
I bet you have a pair of Nikes in the closet lol

[Smash]

I understand where you're coming from but one thing to consider is that when Bivol fights in the States, he's liable for a federal tax of 30%. Fighting in SA resolves that high tax rate. A big part of the reason why Ginger agreed to fight in SA is to bypass that high tax interest. Only 1 of those 4 fights will happen in US soil... Ginger has been making roughly $35 million per fight for his last 3 or 4 fights that's a lot of money the US government is taking.

American citizens don't get the same luxury that foreigners get in SA. Americans still have to pay the feds their 30% cut. Turki is also paying for the brand value that fighters add to Riyadh and although it might be unfair to Bivol, Shakur's brand has more value than the Bivol Brand. Sadly, that's just the way it is, them Saudi's overpay for Brand names....

im not buying those figures i mean madrimov getting 750k wasnt he the belt holder v top guy bud crawford in a high profile fight, i mean come on thats just cant be right all of these guys talk about getting on a turki card but hes paying very average or below average no way just cant be right

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Do you honestly think that PBC is where the money is at, or that they could pay Bivol more than the Saudis?? I'm gonna repeat this again. The Saudis make enough passive income in 2 HOURS to match PBC's current market valuation. 2 HOURS. And your figures are wrong from what I've seen. Where are you getting them?



There's a variety of sources, but this one actually collects his past purses, although I'm aware Marca isn't the most reliable source. I'm using it for convenience because I was able to verify the numbers from more reliable sources.

https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/c...3708b459d.html

For those who don't like to click links:

Vs. Artur Beterbiev (October 2024): In a highly anticipated bout for the undisputed light heavyweight championship held in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, both Bivol and Beterbiev were guaranteed a purse of $10 million each. This fight marked the largest payday of Bivol's career to date.

(Note this is far more than the alleged PBC 8 million offer, and doesn't include the first fight either. He's also likely to get more as the undisputed champion now).

Vs. Canelo Álvarez (May 2022): Bivol's unanimous decision victory over the Mexican superstar not only elevated his status in the boxing world but also earned him an estimated $5 million.

Vs. Gilberto 'Zurdo' Ramirez (November 2022): Defending his WBA light heavyweight title, Bivol secured a purse of approximately $2.5 million for this bout.

Vs. Lyndon Arthur (December 2023): Continuing his winning streak, Bivol earned a guaranteed payout of $1.9 million in this matchup.

Vs. Malik Zinad (June 2024): In a fight held in Riyadh, Bivol took home $750,000 after defeating Zinad.

Note that these figures are also repeated in a variety of other sources that might be more credible.

And we've got the intangibles that Turki looks like he wants to destroy the WBC once and for all. So even if Bivol vacates to complete the trilogy, Turki may continue his efforts to leave the WBC on the outside, and, frankly, money talks.

Here's another source that aligns more with the figure that Sulaiman disclosed. Notice the word I bolded, "potentially". Potentially reaching $8-9million. Many of the figures talked about in articles report "potential" earnings as "actua"l earnings. It happens with Tank earnings as well as Ryan-Devin earnings. For the record, I'm not a Bena nor Sulaiman fanboy and am a bigger fan of Bivol than I am of Bena, but the president of an Organization disclosing financial numbers on record is more believable than financial numbers being reported in an article without an actual source, at least to me anyway.


"Boxing fans witnessed an unforgettable night at ANB Arena as Dmitry Bivol avenged his October 2024 loss to Artur Beterbiev. In a thrilling 12-round war, Bivol handed Beterbiev the first defeat of his career, winning by majority decision to become the undisputed light heavyweight champion. The highly anticipated showdown took place in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and lived up to expectations. Despite the loss, both fighters walked away with massive purses, capping off a historic night in boxing.

According to Sportysalaries , Bivol made $2.5 million in guaranteed money for his first fight against Artur Beterbiev. In the rematch, he’s set to earn $3 million upfront, with total earnings potentially reaching $8-9 million based on pay-per-view sales. He previously pocketed over $5 million from the Canelo fight and $3 million against Gilberto Ramírez. With a reported purse exceeding $6 million for his February 22, 2025, bout, Bivol is on track to become one of Russia’s highest-paid boxers."

[crimsonfalcon07]

Turki is also paying for the brand value that fighters add to Riyadh and although it might be unfair to Bivol, Shakur's brand has more value than the Bivol Brand. Sadly, that's just the way it is, them Saudi's overpay for Brand names....

Why do you think this?

He commands higher purses than Shakur, was Fighter of the Year in 2022 after beating Canelo, has been a stalwart on all P4P lists since then, has nearly double the social media followers even on the Western sites popular in the US, and is an undisputed champion with two fellow P4P fighters on his resume. Also, Shakur was on Bivol's undercard, not the other way around.

He's also got close to 4 times more social media followers than David Benavidez, FYI, and all the same things apply. Higher purses, more mentions on P4P lists, etc, and more PPV headliners than both Shakur and Benavidez combined. The fights with Canelo and Beterbiev had huge visibility, and

So I'm curious what makes you think either Shakur or Benavidez are anything close to A-side compared to Bivol.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

im not buying those figures i mean madrimov getting 750k wasnt he the belt holder v top guy bud crawford in a high profile fight, i mean come on thats just cant be right all of these guys talk about getting on a turki card but hes paying very average or below average no way just cant be right

Bro, in California, financial earnings are Public Record, They cannot be hidden. The earnings for each fighter on that Bud-Madrimov fight card are available to all. Pitbull was the 2nd highest earner on that card with a purse of $1.5 or 1.7 million. I'll try and find the purse to every fighter on that card for you.