Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel Marquez thinks 168lbs will be too much for Terence Crawford

[IceTrayDaGang]

Clenbuterol is a drug that's main components are to aid in fat/weight loss but it's also a drug that increases recovery rate and can aid in the gain in strength and muscle mass at the same time (which is why it's so popular) so yes it can aid toward "giving an athlete power" for lack of a better term.

yeah it's a weight loss drug. now yall wanna add in a bunch of shiiet like it adds power, etc LOL.. i guess G was on something stronger since nelo couldnt put a dent on G.

[IceTrayDaGang]

So what?

so now enrolling in random drug test doesnt mean anything? wth... the same random test that caught his positive test. the hate yall have for the guy. so random testing doesnt mean chit anymore?

[IronDanHamza]

and you are bringing up irondan for clarification of ped use? the same dan who believe marquez has no intention of cheating when he hooked up with memo after 3 failed attemps at securing a win over manny.

I've never said or implied that.

but then implies that manny is dirty for being associated with ariza.

Definitely never said or implied that.


You have this weird thing where you make things up out of thin air. I never said or implied either of those things you've claimed I've implied. Infact the second one I quite LITERALLY said the opposite.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I've never said or implied that.




Definitely never said or implied that.


You have this weird thing where you make things up out of thin air. I never said or implied either of those things you've claimed I've implied. Infact the second one I quite LITERALLY said the opposite.

you said if the poster is accusing marquez of cheating just because he hooked up with memo (a known ped psuher) then he should accuse manny of being dirty also.. your justification for this is because rios tested positive working with ariza... BUT yet, here we have floyd, in 2015, hiring ariza. so floyd hired ariza after knowing that rios got popped for a drity test!!!!!! where as for manny, he fired ariza way before that rios incident!!

but pac fired ariza before the rios fight.. so how the hell would manny know that ariza is a ped pusher??? where as for marquez, memo got caught and was convicted... so marquez knew all about this prior to hooking up with memo and marquez still went ahead with the plan!! imagine if it was manny who went and teamed up with memo.....

[IronDanHamza]

you said if the poster is accusing marquez of cheating just because he hooked up with memo (a known ped psuher) then he should accuse manny of being dirty also.. your justification for this is because rios tested positive working with ariza...

Yes, exactly.

If the standard of evidence for someone being a PED user is working with someone who has PED links then that has to be consistent across the board. You can't pick and chose when that is the case.

Both Marquez and Pacquaio worked with S&C coaches with links to PEDs. So, either both are "drug cheats" by that reasoning, or, neither of them are.

Not sure where you're getting lost on that. It's an extremely simple concept. Be consistent with your argument, that's it. and stop lying and making up things that I've neither said nor implied.

but pac fired ariza before the rios fight.. so how the hell would manny know that ariza is a ped pusher??? where as for marquez, memo got caught and was convicted... so marquez knew all about this prior to hooking up with memo and marquez still went ahead with the plan!! imagine if it was manny who went and teamed up with memo.....

It's again irrelevant.

Both coaches have links to PEDs. Both know the PED game like the back of their hand and both of their athletes have been caught using PEDs at one time or another.

So, again, if the basis for evidence for someone being guilty of using PEDs is working with someone who fits that criteria then either both aren't, or both are. You can't have both.


The fact of the matter is there is NO demonstrable evidence that either Marquez, or Pacquaio used PED's in their boxing careers. Anything to say they did is speculation and nothing more. That is the fact of the matter.

[IronDanHamza]

yeah it's a weight loss drug. now yall wanna add in a bunch of shiiet like it adds power, etc LOL.. i guess G was on something stronger since nelo couldnt put a dent on G.

I'm not adding anything. That is what the drug does.

It's main components are to aid fat/weight loss but it also aids in the unnatural growth of muscle mass and recovery at the same time.

It seems you aren't even remotely versed in this topic.

[IronDanHamza]

so now enrolling in random drug test doesnt mean anything? wth... the same random test that caught his positive test. the hate yall have for the guy. so random testing doesnt mean chit anymore?

Not really, no.

Just because someone is undergoing a random drug testing procedure doesn't mean they aren't still using PEDs.

[Spray_resistant]

I'm willing to bet no matter the result of this fight Marquez would be in favor of a rematch.

[Boxing2695]

I mean I don't like the fight for the fact Crawford is jumping in weight so fast. When Leonard fought Hagler he spent a couple years preparing for that jump because he knew if he was to come back it would be for Hagler and even then that was only one jump in weight and it's a fight that could of gone either way. Crawford is jumping up two divisions,having looked not so comfortable at 154lbs so at 168 it's a huge ask and it's a shame there's no huge money/legacy fights around 147-160 for Crawford to have so he has to make this jump

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Not really, no.

Just because someone is undergoing a random drug testing procedure doesn't mean they aren't still using PEDs.

Let me ask you. If what you're saying is true, would it be reasonable to think that all boxers are on PEDs including our favorite fighters who have never tested positive for anything? Is there a reason or any way of knowing that someone is definitely not on any sort of PED??