Floyd Rewatching Marquez-Pacquiao IV

[Haka]

Ok but do you have any proof that any of these fights happened vs Pacquaio?

You understand that it's just the exact same foolish argument that you're trying to make just flipped in reverse?

First things first Pacquaio could have fought Nate Campbell or Guzman but he fought David Diaz instead.

He also could have fought Zahir Raheem but he fought the guy who lost to Raheem instead in Morales.

He could have fought Mosley in 2009, you've just revised history there. Pacquaio fought at WW in 2008. Mosley was #1 at WW in Jan 2009. He offered the fight to Pacquaio and Roach said no because Mosley was "Too good" so let's not revise history.

Valero was linked with Pacquaio plenty of times, didn't happen.

Berto was undefeated and an option for Pacquaio in 2010-2011 and ranked #2 but he decided to fight unranked Margarito and Mosley coming off a loss and a draw instead. So let's not revise history there either.

Could have fought Paul Williams too, nothing was stopping him.

He didn't fight Canelo.

Pacquaio didn't duck a single name mentioned above here, the point is your argument is dumb. And I'm showing you why that is by using your own dumb logic.

Let's take it case by case regarding Raheem, Campbell, Guzman. They were never really relevant, Diaz had the WBC and Pac was running through the divisions, he was not going to waste time and fight guys nobody has ever heard off when he can fight the champions in the higher divisions at 140 and 147. Valero had a tiny resume, could not get licenses, was in a lower weight class. Williams, Quintana, Clottey, Margarito and Floyd have been 147 for years.

[Haka]

Keep it a buck he got a gift decision vs Collazo

Prime Mosley in 1999
Mosley 2006
Tszyu
undefeated Cotto
Margarito
Kell Brook
PWill 147
Sergio 154
Thurman
Spence
Brook
Bradley
-- Collazo
-- Quintana

I've added 2 other fighters that could stylistically have brought a Castillo/Maidana type of fight.

[IronDanHamza]

Let's take it case by case regarding Raheem, Campbell, Guzman. They were never really relevant, Diaz had the WBC and Pac was running through the divisions, he was not going to waste time and fight guys nobody has ever heard off when he can fight the champions in the higher divisions at 140 and 147. Valero had a tiny resume, could not get licenses, was in a lower weight class. Pac never fought at 154 so why should he fight Canelo and Williams. Williams, Quintana, Clottey, Margarito and Floyd have been 147 for years.

Ok...but...Do you have any proof that any of these fights happened vs Pacquaio?

When your logic is flipped on it's head you want to go "case by case". When it's the other way round you're demanding "proof" for a something that the onus is on you to prove.

You understand the issue here, right?

The exact same arguments you're making here can be used the other way, hence the issue, again.

And just as a closing note, Pacquaio did fight at Jr Middleweight. So, yes he could have fought either of those two. He fought Margarito at Jr Middleweight so he could have fought Canelo and Williams at Jr MW.

He could have fought Mosley in 2009 but Roach turned it down and said Mosley was "too good", he could have fought undefeated #2 ranked Berto in 2010 but he fought unranked fighters coming off losses instead.

He COULD have fought anyone listed above. Nothing was stopping any of those fights from happening. Same as your list for Mayweather. Point is plenty of those fights weren't even in discussion let alone on the table. But you're just displaying an overt double standard.

[IronDanHamza]

Prime Mosley in 1999
Mosley 2006
Tszyu
undefeated Cotto
Margarito
Kell Brook
PWill 147
Sergio 154
Thurman
Spence
Brook
Bradley
-- Collazo
-- Quintana

I've added 2 other fighters that could stylistically have brought a Castillo/Maidana type of fight.

Collazo and Quintana, two counterpunchers/boxers are fighters that stylistically bring a Castillo/Maidana type of fight? What are you, blind? They're polar opposites to those two stylistically what are you talking about?

If we are throwing Collazo and Quintana in there for fights Mayweather didn't take then we need to throw in;

Sadam Ali
Lamont Peterson
Shawn Porter
Pauli Malignaggi
Robert Guerrero
Jan Zaveck
Rafael Jackiewicz
Mike Jones
Victor Ortiz
Devon Alexander

And many more for fights Pacquaio missed aswell.

If we are just going to include totally asinine ridiculous examples then we may as well just keep it going until the wheels fall off.

[SouthpawRight]

Collazo and Quintana, two counterpunchers/boxers are fighters that stylistically bring a Castillo/Maidana type of fight? What are you, blind? They're polar opposites to those two stylistically what are you talking about?

If we are throwing Collazo and Quintana in there for fights Mayweather didn't take then we need to throw in;

Sadam Ali
Lamont Peterson
Shawn Porter
Pauli Malignaggi
Robert Guerrero
Jan Zaveck
Rafael Jackiewicz
Mike Jones
Victor Ortiz
Devon Alexander

And many more for fights Pacquaio missed aswell.

If we are just going to include totally asinine ridiculous examples then we may as well just keep it going until the wheels fall off.

explains why filipines is still 3rd world even after more than a century of being a US colony

[Haka]

Collazo and Quintana, two counterpunchers/boxers are fighters that stylistically bring a Castillo/Maidana type of fight? What are you, blind? They're polar opposites to those two stylistically what are you talking about?

If we are throwing Collazo and Quintana in there for fights Mayweather didn't take then we need to throw in;

Sadam Ali
Lamont Peterson
Shawn Porter
Pauli Malignaggi
Robert Guerrero
Jan Zaveck
Rafael Jackiewicz
Mike Jones
Victor Ortiz
Devon Alexander

And many more for fights Pacquaio missed aswell.

If we are just going to include totally asinine ridiculous examples then we may as well just keep it going until the wheels fall off.

If we make the same list for Pac we can realistically put on as prime for prime fights that are ducked:

Kell Brook
Mosley 2009

The list of Floyd is much more extensive in that regard.

[SouthpawRight]

If we make the same list for Pac we can realistically put on as prime for prime fights that are ducked:

Kell Brook
Mosley 2009

The list of Floyd is much more extensive in that regard.

if anything Kell Brook ducked Floyd and manny

Kell Brook was happy to camp out in the UK fighting random euroids

[IronDanHamza]

If we make the same list for Pac we can realistically put on as prime for prime fights that are ducked:

Kell Brook
Mosley 2009

The list of Floyd is much more extensive in that regard.

Buddy you just included COLLAZO AND QUINTANA for Mayweather And then said they have the same style as Maidana and Castillo when they are the LITERAL polar opposite stylistically

If you are including those then ALL of those names need to be including for fights Pacquaio missed. I could name another 20 atleast on top of that, if that is the standard.

Do you have any proof that any of these fights happened vs Pacquaio?

[SouthpawRight]

Buddy you just included COLLAZO AND QUINTANA for Mayweather And then said they have the same style as Maidana and Castillo when they are the LITERAL polar opposite stylistically

If you are including those then ALL of those names need to be including for fights Pacquaio missed. I could name another 20 atleast on top of that, if that is the standard.

Do you have any proof that any of these fights happened vs Pacquaio?

I’ll add it’s a fighter’s job to fight the best opponent that pays the most

the top opponent isn’t always the one with a difficult style

manny got easy worked while Cotto made Floyd work

[Haka]

Buddy you just included COLLAZO AND QUINTANA for Mayweather And then said they have the same style as Maidana and Castillo when they are the LITERAL polar opposite stylistically

If you are including those then ALL of those names need to be including for fights Pacquaio missed. I could name another 20 atleast on top of that, if that is the standard.

Do you have any proof that any of these fights happened vs Pacquaio?

You mentioned Collazo yourself and undefeated Kermin Cintron would have been a better win than Corrales, Castillo.