Comments Thread For: Martin Bakole is back and ready to do things properly this time

[PBR Streetgang]

Grant was an excellent athlete who managed to cobble a few nice devistating wins together. He showed cracks against... if memory serves correct, Jawny Ruiz, a fight he won but had problems (I think it was Ruiz)... Even before people believed the hype. Lewis destroyed him because Grant really had no skills, he was reliant upon athletic ability and size and little else. Lewis to his credit took the fight because fans wanted it. His obligation was to face jawney Ruiz, a fighter who threw less punches than his cornerman Stoney! There was never a chance for Ruiz to challenge Lewis and he knew this. People never give Lewis the credit he deserves... The fans asked for it and he delivered...

AJ has proven himself far beyond Grant.

If I recall, Grant nearly got iced in the first round by Golota. The hard hitting Polish fighter dropped him multiple times early but Grant managed to survive somehow and Andrew imploded later in the fight and essentially quit. I think Golota was ahead on the cards when he quit.

[BlackRobb]

Yes. The gulf in skill level between Martin Bakole and Joseph Parker was immediately apparent 'So what exactly is Bakole's big advantage against his nearest competition at World to Elite level? Power, and Brute Strength. Those are two of Martin Bakole's best attributes, but even in those departments he is hardly miles ahead of his nearest competition'.

There is no way Micheal Hunter would have ever been able to force a stoppage against any version of Anthony Joshua 'I would also rate Joshua's punching power and offense superior to Bakole's'.

The reason why I have chosen Anthony Joshua to compare with Martin Bakole 'Is because many people question Joshua's durability. But if we check Anthony Joshua's resume, he has fought and beaten more power punchers than Martin Bakole. Anthony Joshua has also shown greater feats of resolve and durability vs Wladimir Kiltschko'.

The attribute of durability is not Anthony Joshua's best attribute 'But even still statistically, there is more evidence that Joshua has greater durability levels than Martin Bakole'. Michael Hunter beat him down and stopped him, and Parker took him out with one punch'.

No fighter has ever been able to get Anthony Joshua out of the ring with a single punch 'Daniel Dubois had to throw everything at Joshua for 5 rounds, and also relied on Anthony Joshua himself amplifying Dubois's power by making unforced errors and wading into punches'.

Martin Bakole's entire game relies heavily on him being able to bull his opponents 'The major issue Bakole has in this regards, is that? He does not have the pressure fighting skills or endurance levels of Rocky Marciano. Bakole's skill level is not much higher than a domestic level fighter, and his durability levels have already been exposed to be in no way impregnable'.

Note: I would expect a fully prepared and trained Martin Bakole, in today's heavyweight era to win against a certain level of fighter 'But when he starts competing against fighters with multiple dimensions to their game, combined with a high skill level. Goodness me, this man is there to be completely smashed up badly'.

Martin Bakole is the same type of fighter as Daniel Dubois 'Neither one of those fighters are skill for skill, very sophisticated fighters. And their entire game relies on them being aggressive, overhauling their opponent's with greater power and brute strength;.

But at least Daniel Dubois is showing some signs of having basic skills above domestic level 'Dubois has technical sound punches, and combinations. Outside of that, I don't really rate Dubois as a skill for skill boxer at World or Elite level'.

Martin Bakole in comparison, is miles more slower than Daniel Dubois 'His boxing fundamentals are terrible, and his conditioning is even more worst'.

To conclude: I am content that Martin Bakole got some reward for his showing of courage, to step up and fight Joseph Parker 'But that is as far as my praise is going to go for him. If people can criticise and ridicule fighters like Tyson Fury for being out of condition at times. Or fighters such as Anthony Joshua for losing fights while gallantly trying to win vs Daniel Dubois'. Then a fighter like Martin Bakole is not going to get any high level of praise from me'.

It was Toney Bellew who once stated 'Fighters like Daniel Dubois, are ether going to win in spectacular fashion or lose in spectacular fashion'. Heavyweight fighters who predominantly rely on just power, and brute strength. But if you analyse their game on a intricate level, it becomes very apparent that it is inevitable they will be obliterated at some point in their careers'.

The same applies to Martin Bakole 'It is only a matter of time once again, before he gets smashed up completely in my opinion' etc.

Agree with most of what you said except for the Michael Hunter part. Hunter didn't beat him down ~ he outlasted Bakole. The fight was stopped on a Bakole shoulder injury.

Bakole gets over-the-top kudos because he smashed Bob's prize heavyweight in resounding fashion.

[PBR Streetgang]

Problem is that many in the media and many fans have recency bias and overweight one particular performance. A fighter has good night and he's the next big thing and if he has a bad night he's a bum or trash (look no further than Parker, Zhang or Joyce for examples of the above). We need to look at the situation in it's entirety.

Bakole is the same guy who lost to Hunter, beat Kuzmin and demolished Yoka and Anderson. He's also the same guy who was blitzed by Parker. If he's prepared and against the right style of opponent, he will look good but there are limitations to his game (like most of the contenders).

[billeau2]

If I recall, Grant nearly got iced in the first round by Golota. The hard hitting Polish fighter dropped him multiple times early but Grant managed to survive somehow and Andrew imploded later in the fight and essentially quit. I think Golota was ahead on the cards when he quit.

Was that the fight before Lewis? I should be less lazy and look it up lol. Thank you for the info, and correction. It was the fight before Lewis... It became more obvious (many of us knew before that Grant was limited) that Grant was not going to have a good day.

It was Larry merchant who came up with this narrative of "the American heavy weight." Which is why traditionally I had a lot of patience with the likes of Sidknee before he went full rtard. Merchant's drunk ramblings led for virtually all of Lewis' opponents to become juggernauts in the eyes of casual fans. Of course Grant fell right into this narrative. never mind the slight details like... the guy had the boxing skills of a one handed Kangeroo!

[billeau2]

Agree with most of what you said except for the Michael Hunter part. Hunter didn't beat him down ~ he outlasted Bakole. The fight was stopped on a Bakole shoulder injury.

Bakole gets over-the-top kudos because he smashed Bob's prize heavyweight in resounding fashion.

Your on a role man... in a good way! When Bakole fought Hunter he was not savy regarding applying pressure... If you watch Sonny Liston and George Foreman, Two distinct big heavyweights, they had an entirely different method of applying pressure... despite Liston mentoring Foreman! Liston was strictly off the fighting line. He had faster feet than most people think, the reach, and could get to his opponent fighting off the line. Foreman, by comparison was a ring cutter. He would control your shoulders, walk you into corners, moving lateral to you to cut the real estate...

I bring this up because many big heavyweights never learn how to properly apply pressure. bakole was catching Hunter but unable to choose a proper method of applying pressure. By the time he fought Anderson you can see he is moving laterally, pumping the jab and stepping around Anderson so Anderson could only hope his jab was strong enough to keep bakole back, and it was not.

As you say Hunter did not beat him down, he was able to stay out of trouble and counter because there was no real pressure on him. I really think Bakole learned a lot from that fight...

[billeau2]

Problem is that many in the media and many fans have recency bias and overweight one particular performance. A fighter has good night and he's the next big thing and if he has a bad night he's a bum or trash (look no further than Parker, Zhang or Joyce for examples of the above). We need to look at the situation in it's entirety.

Bakole is the same guy who lost to Hunter, beat Kuzmin and demolished Yoka and Anderson. He's also the same guy who was blitzed by Parker. If he's prepared and against the right style of opponent, he will look good but there are limitations to his game (like most of the contenders).

Levels to the game... Joyce was unable to make any adjustments. He could not find a way to protect himself once fighters learned that his pressure was contingent on being defensively irresponsible. Zhang is just too heavy! The older one gets the harder to fight at a heavy weight. Parker is a different animal entirely. He has gotten better, like bakole imo. Parker had to understand when to be mobile, when to sit down on his shots, and to just get comfortable fighting at a distance where he could throw counters well. He improved... The difference here is how each fighter adjusts, or is unable to adjust.

[brankobugarski]

Everybody is talking about how out of shape Bakole was for Parker. However, I am not sure he is ever in shape - even after a 10 week camp. Just look at the photos and video of his fight with Jared Andersen. He was out of shape then for the biggest fight of his life with a full camp. After a few rounds he was blowing heavy and getting tired.

Can he punch? Absolutely. He probably even hurt Joseph Parker a couple of times, but Bakole is lazy and likes to eat, so he will never be in shape. That means, at the highest level he will always come up short. Sure he can beat up people in the gym because he has very heavy hands and every punch hurts, but when it really counts, he is not a champion level material.

[ShoulderRoll]

This is why fighters should stay within a reasonable range of their best fighting weight year-round.

You never know when an opportunity might come.

[billeau2]

This is why fighters should stay within a reasonable range of their best fighting weight year-round.

You never know when an opportunity might come.

Having trained many fighters... A big big problem is how many of them think they walk around with a cloak of invincability. Young people with a lot of confidence are often a danger to themselves, despite the good trait embodied by the confidence. I often have to straighten my boys out on this account... These guys are relatively young, many of them need to grow up... And the tough, mean, "I take no shiat from no one!!" trainers of yesteryear are leaving us for in doves for greener pastures. Who in Bakoles camp has the temerity to say "Listen you fat fck! get your shiat together or you and I will be rumbling... "don't make me make you hurt me!"

[JakeTheBoxer]

Bakole is a sparring champion. Just like Benavudez.