Here is the controversial moment that saved Gervonta Davis from losing to Lamont Roach: Davis tooks a knee in the 9th and the Referee refuses to rule it as a knockdown

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  • TheProudLunatic
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    #51
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    It's a knockdown whether a punch lands or not.

    If a fighter takes a knee for any reason it's a knockdown.

    For example Miguel Cotto took a knee vs Antonio Margarito when no punch was thrown, so he took a count.

    Mayweather's turned his back and touched his glove on the canvass when he broke his hand vs Carlos Hernandez, so he took a count.
    1) I'm glad 99% of knock downs include punches
    2) Pretty cheesy way of scoring a KD. As a fighter, I wouldn't want to get credit for knocking my opp down without landing a punch
    3) Cotto was a mess. Many solid punches did land just prior to. Huge diff.
    4) Imagine losing a rd/fight because your glove touched the canvass.......

    "Technically" everyone who is upset is "right"....but, cmon. It would have ranked as an ATG cheesy KD.

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      #52
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      It's a knockdown whether a punch lands or not.

      If a fighter takes a knee for any reason it's a knockdown.

      For example Miguel Cotto took a knee vs Antonio Margarito when no punch was thrown, so he took a count.

      Mayweather's turned his back and touched his glove on the canvass when he broke his hand vs Carlos Hernandez, so he took a count.
      You're correct, but I mentioned the legal punch to contrast with other situations where a fighter might end up on a knee (a low blow, a headbutt, an elbow, a slip, a push, a fighter dropping their weight on a bent over opponent, etc) that wouldn't necessarily count as a knockdown. But, absolutely, if you just take a knee of your own accord it's a knockdown with or without a punch.
      Last edited by famicommander; 03-03-2025, 01:04 AM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

        He wanted to clear his vision
        Used an awkward way of doing it
        The fight resumed 2 seconds later.....

        Much ado over nothing
        Those are the rules of boxing. Every fighter, except apparently Tank Davis, understands that they can't just take a knee of their own accord without being counted for a knockdown. Every fight takes place with both fighters operating under that pretext.

        If the knockdown had been scored correctly the scorecards would've been 115-112, 114-113, 114-113 UD win for Roach. This is as flagrant of a robbery as there could possibly be.

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          #54
          Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

          1) I'm glad 99% of knock downs include punches
          2) Pretty cheesy way of scoring a KD. As a fighter, I wouldn't want to get credit for knocking my opp down without landing a punch
          3) Cotto was a mess. Many solid punches did land just prior to. Huge diff.
          4) Imagine losing a rd/fight because your glove touched the canvass.......

          "Technically" everyone who is upset is "right"....but, cmon. It would have ranked as an ATG cheesy KD.
          Gervonta took a slap and felt like he needed time to recover so took a knee and ran to his corner pretending he wasnt hurt

          He was hurt from that shot

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            #55
            Originally posted by famicommander

            Those are the rules of boxing. Every fighter, except apparently Tank Davis, understands that they can't just take a knee of their own accord without being counted for a knockdown. Every fight takes place with both fighters operating under that pretext.

            If the knockdown had been scored correctly the scorecards would've been 115-112, 114-113, 114-113 UD win for Roach. This is as flagrant of a robbery as there could possibly be.
            Would have been the lamest 10-8 rd
            But I guess lame is good

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              #56
              Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

              Gervonta took a slap and felt like he needed time to recover so took a knee and ran to his corner pretending he wasnt hurt

              He was hurt from that shot
              !!!

              Again.....

              "Technically" everyone who is upset is "right"....but, cmon. It would have ranked as an ATG cheesy KD.

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                #57
                Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

                Would have been the lamest 10-8 rd
                But I guess lame is good
                It would have been the correct result. The one that both fighters earned.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

                  !!!

                  Again.....

                  "Technically" everyone who is upset is "right"....but, cmon. It would have ranked as an ATG cheesy KD.
                  I feel like you might actually be tank or just another uneducated child

                  You keep saying cheesy KD like its someone elses fault for counting it as one

                  You cant just Charlie Zelenoff style take a time out in the middle of a fight without consequences and the corruption for this not being called a KD is so blatant theyre not even trying anymore.

                  This was supposed to be an experienced ref that just let a guy time out??
                  the cheesy factor is the blatant corruption and guys like you that are even trying to subliminally defend it but not just come out and say it.

                  Its whack a guy touched down and never got a count

                  Tank himself would not have argued a count becuase it was the whole reason he went down in the first place,to give himself a 10 count to sort himself out.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by famicommander

                    It would have been the correct result. The one that both fighters earned.
                    The bold is questionable

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                      I feel like you might actually be tank or just another uneducated child
                      I tune out when the "insults" start
                      It's very childish, wouldn't you say ?

                      We disagree
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