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  • Originally posted by KING S.O.G View Post
    Video replays should correct the verdict by awarding a official KnockDown for Roach in the 9th round

    This would completely change the decision from a majority draw to a split decision in favor of Roach.

    114-113 2x(Lamont) according to the judges' card​
    True, there shouldve been some mechanism to have quickly scored it a KD. But you gotta figure that both fighters (hopefully/especially the fighter who was knocked down) would've fought differently once a KD was officially counted.

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    • Originally posted by KING S.O.G View Post
      Video replays should correct the verdict by awarding a official KnockDown for Roach in the 9th round

      This would completely change the decision from a majority draw to a split decision in favor of Roach.

      114-113 2x(Lamont) according to the judges' card​
      It wouldn't even be a split decision. Two of the judges gave the 9th to Davis, so that would be a 2 point swing if they counted the knockdown. The result would be 115-112, 114-113, 114-113 UD for Roach.

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      • Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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        You think last week was the first time I watched Shakur? Shakur has 11 KO’s and has won titles in two weight classes. Those aren’t minerals or what?

        As for your analysts that Roach was successful because “he took the fight to Tank”, well, I suppose Rolly and Ryan “didn’t take the fight to Tank”, amiright?
        Educated pressure, you can't pressure tank without a care in the world for defence. Both those fighters got what they deserved. Roach has skills and he has more power than his record suggests. Shakur on the other hand will stay out of harms way.He may well beat Tank ( sorry out score Tank but he couldn't knock him out if Tank gave him a free shot in every round)

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        • Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post

          .He may well beat Tank ( sorry out score Tank but he couldn't knock him out if Tank gave him a free shot in every round)
          so out scoring someone in boxing does not result in a win?

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          • Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post

            Educated pressure, you can't pressure tank without a care in the world for defence. Both those fighters got what they deserved. Roach has skills and he has more power than his record suggests. Shakur on the other hand will stay out of harms way.He may well beat Tank ( sorry out score Tank but he couldn't knock him out if Tank gave him a free shot in every round)
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            This is a fair analysis. Here’s the thing though, if the fight plays out how you predict and you are correct, Tabk will fight with a sense of urgency towards the end and will need to close the gap between them. Perhaps the championship rounds will reveal their truth.
            Noelanthony Noelanthony likes this.

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            • Originally posted by Phase III
              If judges scoring were to determined by the majority of judges scores by individual rounds, instead of relying on each judge overall scorecard, this fight would have ended in a unanimous draw as each fighter won 6 rounds if you score a fight by majority of individual rounds.

              However, judge Glenn Feldman’s scorecard deserves the most criticism for 2 reasons. (1) He was the only judge who gave controversial Round 7 ( the uncalled knockdown) to Tank. (2) Glenn Feldman gave Roach only 3 of the last 6 rounds. Whereas the 2 other judges gave Roach 4 or 5 or the last 6 rounds.

              Feldman has a history of questionable judging. He was called out by Jake Paul and accuses of being on the take when he inexplicably gave Anthony Joshua the victory 115-113 in Usyk v Joshua II. Feldman scorecards have been questioned numerous time on many fights. The one common denominator, he has a knack for consistently scoring for the A side fighter. Many times, his scorecards are very wide for the A side. He should not be given any big fight to judge given his questionable and controversial history.

              Moreover, in the first 6 rounds, Roach was only given 1 majority round by the 3 judges, the first round.

              Judge Feldman only gave Roach 3 of the last 6 rounds, whereas Judge Eric Marlinsky, who scored the fight for Davis 115-113 gave Roach 4 of the last 6 rounds, and Steve Weisfeld gave Roach 5 of the last 6 rounds.
              lol yeah u remined me of glen feldman being confronted about the joshua usky horrible card and then passing the question over to some midget he was with LOL HILARIOUS he wouldnt even attemp to answer the question hes as bent as a drag queen king no doublt about it!!!!!!!

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              • No one ever gets any joy when they try to appeal a decision... But this really should be one where the governing bodies should step in. There is nothing ambiguous or debatable about it; the ref starting a count and then not giving a KD is an egregious mistake (or piece of corruption) and is it is in everyone's interest to rectify it (even Tank's, I'd argue, as it will be better for him in the long run not to have this spurious resuilt on his record).

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                • Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post
                  (even Tank's, I'd argue, as it will be better for him in the long run not to have this spurious resuilt on his record).
                  it will be old news in 6 monts LOL and only remember for the laughs tank fans will say off night but he was winning anyway lol

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                  • Props to Roach's head trainer, they gave Roach excellent advice about keeping the distance during the fight.

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                    • Originally posted by BirdSong View Post

                      so out scoring someone in boxing does not result in a win?
                      I will pretend that you just crawled out of a stone smarty pants. No it doesn’t necessarily mean a win. How many fighters have outscored their opponents and still lost? Fighter A may outscore fighter B in body shots, though fighter B out scores fighter A in jabs to the face, who wins?

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