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  • #31
    The aim of a boxer/counterpuncher is clean punching and accuracy as opposed to punching power.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
      Tommy Sugar and TBud are all boxer-punchers

      Bivol is in the pure boxer mold like Mayweather

      instead of good power like the boxer-punchers pure boxers have excellent defense

      whatever you say little fat guy
      I get what you're saying but there's a FINE LINE between being a boxer/counterpuncher and a boxer/puncher in my opinion. For example, Crawford was considered a boxer/counterpuncher for most of his career (including the Spence fight) but has slowly evolved into a boxer/puncher as of late. However, he still had a lot of KO's during the early part of his career. Similarly, JMM is considered one of the GREATEST boxer/counterpuncher's of all time and has a career KO ratio of 71%. Also, we can't overlook the fact that both guys are 4 division champions so have retained a high KO% whilst moving up in weight whereas Bivol has been a career Light Heavyweight and ONLY has a 50% KO ratio.

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      • #33
        If I was doing a Pick 'Em between T-Kitty & Chubby Chaser my prediction would be as follows:-

        Fight 1: Chubby Chaser Dec Close
        Fight 2: T-Kitty Dec Close

        I guess we'll just have to see how the trilogy fight between Bivol & Beterbiev plays out to determine the eventual winner!

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        • #34
          Two things that haven't been mentioned.

          One is technical. It's not actually completely accurate to say that Bivol puts his whole weight behind his punches because he doesn't. He fights balanced and on the bounce, so he doesn't actually transition his weight into the punch. He's explained the mechanics of it as well recently, and he likes to punch like a whip, letting it flick out. That provides the enough power to keep opponents honest, but whips cut, rather than impact. So they hurt, and make good use of the kinetic chain, and are very fast, which suits his style, but do not provide penetrative impact, which is a prerequisite for a knockout. This is why you've never seen anyone so much as knocked down by a flicker jab, for instance, while the ramrod straight like Golovkin, or more recently Crawford vs Spence, while slower, has more potential to knock someone down or out. Bivol throws his cross like a flicker as well. Real weight transfer is slower to do and doesn't work well if you're going to fight off the pendulum step bounce and rely on that footwork to maintain distance.

          The second is that Bivol uses a LOT of straight punches in combination. He does this for tactical reasons; they get there faster than looping punches thrown by opponents trying to get past his tight high guard, allowing him to interrupt their offense, and they blind the opponent so they can't see which way he's exiting. They're also long range, allowing him to maintain distance control, frequently landing as the opponent tries to step into range. And the quantity that he throws allows him to rack up points even though his style isn't really judge friendly. However, the downside here is that the opponent generally sees them coming and can brace for impact. The punch that knocks you out is usually the one you didn't see coming, and Bivol's style usually means opponents do see the punches coming.
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          • #35
            If I was a contender at 175, I would rather lose to Beterbiev than to Bivol.

            Beterbiev will knock you out, you you won˙t look like an idiot.

            Bivol will win 10 rounds out of 12 and make you look amaterish and ******.

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            • #36
              bivol couldnt even KO his hoe!!!! had to settle for a MD LMAO

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              • #37
                Originally posted by moochi View Post
                He's always fighting top opponents as well. he ain't fighting cab drivers or tomato cans
                That is also true.

                When he still fought yus like Agnew or Broadhurst, he had much higher KO %.

                He stopped Broadhurst in the first round with one punch.

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