NSB PICK EM 2025: ROUND 1. PICK EM #17 - #20: SATURDAY 1st MARCH

[Tatabanya]

OK, here I am at last... Results:

Crocker KO mid
Puello DEC close
Russell DEC wide
Davis vs Roach DRAW

Standings on March 2, 2025 (as always, check for errors... I am a bit in a mess these days!)

PLAYER POINTS x2 x3 x5 PERFECT PICKS Joseph 520 1 0 0 4 NCUppercut 510 2 0 0 2 SceneBoxer 510 0 1 0 1 BigZ44 420 0 0 1 4 SteveM 410 3 0 0 4 jas 400 1 0 1 5 joe strong 400 2 1 1 2 KING S.O.G. 390 2 1 1 4 edpboxing 380 2 2 0 2 SUBZER0ED 380 2 1 1 2 Chrismart 370 3 0 1 2 Idunnoshet 370 2 2 1 2 eco1 360 2 1 1 1 Mammoth 360 2 1 1 4 ShoulderRoll 360 1 2 1 2 Citizen Koba 340 2 1 1 2 Tatabanya 340 2 1 0 5 PBRStreetgang 300 1 2 1 3 MulaKO 290 2 1 1 2 His Excellency 260 2 2 1 1 Rockybigblower 250 3 2 1 2 Damn Wicked 240 3 1 1 1 mlac 230 3 1 1 2 anonymous2.0 210 2 2 0 2 crimsonfalcon07 170 2 1 0 2 morph_resurrected 120 1 0 1 0 Baltimore 30 3 2 1 0 MikeyG 30 3 2 1 0

[Tatabanya]

you've got this unless someone plays a hail mary x5 on an unexpected upset in the remaining 4 weeks - not many fights to go that i can see

Yeah, I was looking and only saw a few women's title fights, few smaller scraps. Not sure what we have planned yet, if anything.

I was in the lead once before, but again I am expecting to be upset soon.

The final date for this third is April 30 - it's three mini-tournaments per year, not four...

BTW Citizen Koba - one day you will have to give up the secret and tell us who won the whole 2024 season

[Joseph]

The final date for this third is April 30 - it's three mini-tournaments per year, not four...

Ah, then I am fucked.

[Tatabanya]

Ah, then I am fucked.

No, think like "winning will be sweeter"

[HisExcellency]

The final date for this third is April 30 - it's three mini-tournaments per year, not four...

BTW Citizen Koba - one day you will have to give up the secret and tell us who won the whole 2024 season

Thanks Tata...does this mean we have to use all our multipliers by April 30 or do they get carried over to the next edition?

[Joseph]

Thanks Tata...does this mean we have to use all our multipliers by April 30 or do they get carried over to the next edition?

They do not carry over.

[NC Uppercut]

you've got this unless someone plays a hail mary x5 on an unexpected upset in the remaining 4 weeks - not many fights to go that i can see

Not so fast Steven!

[Joseph]

With a single x2 in my arsenal and ten points separating me from two legit threats, I'm going to have to really do my homework on whatever comes next.

[SUBZER0ED]

Thanks for your comments man, as mentioned by Tat above the conversation has been had before, I won't delve into the history here although if you look in the still stickied 2024 Masterthread you'll find near the bottom links to the previous Masterthreads going back to 2018 and somewhere in the archives or in the threads themselves also the links to associated pre-season discussion threads where we canvass players over proposed rule changes and ideas that they may want to see included or whatever. There's been plenty of lively discussion over the years about all aspects of the game rules and scoring balance and so on. We did in fact have a more comprehensive scoring system up until 2022 including far more detail such as correct pick totals, longest streaks, total picks and correct pick % and so on...

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...2-masterthread

At that time I was also including an individual table for the result from each week, points scored, multipliers used etc for the resord and for the purposes of redundancy and back checking for errors and so on..

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...6#post31296606

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...1#post31296611

End of the day I got no issues with your proposal, and using the old comprehensive scoring system most of the info could have been relatively easily pulled out anyway, but what it boiled down to in the end was simply a matter of the time involved, when I took over the running of the Pick Em in 2018 and right through COVID I had a lot more time on my hands, but these last few years I just had a lot more stuff going on IRL and dedicating 3 or 4 hours each week to running the PIck Em was simply no longer an option and I nearly threw in the towel altogether.

Thankfully Tat stepped up to the plate to keep up with the scoring using a more managable and streamlined system and MikeyG took over the video links (now taken over at least temporarily by Joseph) which allowed us to keep it running and the half hour or so it takes each week to put up threads is something I'm willing to keep on doing even though I probably only watch one major card a month these days.

Ha ha - in short I ain't willing to put in the extra time (even typing this post is cutting into time I'm suppossed to be working on my college assignment due in next week)... but I also got no objections whatsoever if someone else, even Your Excellency yourself wishes to do so.

Two main suggestions either a) start drumming up support and / or canvassing opinion with the other players and / or b) start keeping your own personal tally of w/l and points scored and pick percentage sans multipliers. Once you got a spreadsheet set up ought to take no more than 20 mins or so to fill in the results most weeks since the multipliers (both optional and underdog) add an extra layer of complexity.

If Tat wishes to add to his workload he could add that in too I guess, but like all of us he also has other pressures on his time and I wouldn't presume for second to ask him to do any more than he already does - TBH without him this thing wouldn't still be going at all.

EDIT: Last thing I would say though is I been running this game a long time now, and I would say that the multipliers do tend to even out over time... countless times we seen players storm into early season leads just to get gradually reeled back in over the course of the season - it's that Tortoise and Hare story - do you throw all in on your multipliers early to establish a commanding lead or save them to spend em when the best opportunites come up throughout the season? What I've found over the years is that as often as not it's the 'tortoises' that end up at the top of the table when the dust settles...

The dynamic may have shifted over the last two years since we split the 12 month season into quadrimestres and TBH I haven't been giving it the attention to really keep track on how that's affected play balance but if nothing else it might be worth opening the discussion over whether we want to keep with the 4 month seasons or return to single 12 month annual game since a large part of the rationale for the change was related to to the Prize incentives being offered by the previous mangement of the site which appear to be no longer forthcoming.

Bear in mind that the wise use of multipliers is itself a reflection of skill and knowledge - it's a means of reflecting and rewarding your level of confidence in a particular underdog prediction - it's more a matter of how heavily you want to lean on gamesmanship and how heavily just on pure accuracy, over the years we've established a balance that's (I think) mostly reflected the views of the player base at any given time, but as the player base gradually changes so too can sentiment so there's no good reason these issues can't be raised over again, main thing is to try to ensure most players are getting the kind of game they would enjoy the most.

Frankly, I agree with you, Koba, about the wise use of multipliers on underdogs. I remember back in the day when players could use multipliers on favorites as well as underdogs. Even though it was fun, it was a bit unfair and took little skill. I believe that the current multiplier system is better-balanced and does require a bit more skill (or luck, lol), and like betting, the reward is larger for a correct pick of an underdog than it is for a favorite.

[HisExcellency]

With a single x2 in my arsenal and ten points separating me from two legit threats, I'm going to have to really do my homework on whatever comes next.

LMAO...first world problems. Spare a thought for us poor guys at the bottom...you've literally DOUBLED my points tally!