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  • #41
    For quite some time, Canelo Alvarez is going to fight a good legitimate opponent in William Scull after his loss to Bivol. I don't like the way he was maneuvering his career, but this of a few of his recent fights I say are worth watching, also depends of the undercard.

    Not the most entertaining fight since his opponent isn't a big puncher nor exceptionally skilled, however William is a full fledged Super Middleweight, a physically at his best and without the IBF belt, would be a top 10 fighter at 168.

    Scull is a aggressive and well rounded fighter with average power, he will likely get moments of success against Alvarez, but will eventually get clipped with a KD and then outboxed throughout the fight.

    Scull by normal means, wouldn't easily had gotten the belt, but earned it by beating a undefeated top 5 IBF ranked fighter in Shishkin who beat Jose Uzcategui (32-4, 27 KOs), even if the fight wasn't the most exciting. A fair good fight, not a great PPV fight.

    Still though I think fighting a 154 pounder that debuted at 135 is not really good move, this isn't Duran vs Hagler where Roberto had gradually acclimated up and gave a quite competitive fight, Terrance is leaping up two division after moving up to a division where he hasn't even settled in even if it was against a proper champion. Think Turki should rethink it, make Alvarez actually fight deserving opponents in his division like the winner of Mbilli-Sadjo, then fight next year against Pacheco or Iglesias after they get work done during 2025-2026. Or take hard challenges like Benavidez, Bivol rematch or Beterviev. Fights that should had happened quite some time ago.

    Canelo vs Crawford would be more credible if he won a belt at 160 immediately and then fought a legitimate 168 pounder.
    Last edited by Malvado; 02-08-2025, 08:19 PM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post
      For quite some time, Canelo Alvarez is going to fight a good legitimate opponent in William Scull. I don't like the way he was maneuvering his career, but this of a few of his recent fights I say are worth watching, also depends of the undercard.

      Not the most entertaining fight since his opponent isn't a big puncher nor exceptionally skilled, however William is a full fledged Super Middleweight, a physically at his best and without the IBF belt, would be a top 10 fighter at 168.

      Scull is a aggressive and well rounded fighter with average power, he will likely get moments of success against Alvarez, but will eventually get clipped with a KD and then outboxed throughout the fight.

      Scull by normal means, wouldn't easily had gotten the belt, but earned it by beating a undefeated top 5 IBF ranked fighter in Shishkin who beat Jose Uzcategui (32-4, 27 KOs), even if the fight wasn't the most exciting. A fair good fight, not a great PPV fight.

      Still though I think fighting a 154 pounder that debuted at 135 is not really good move, this isn't Duran vs Hagler where Roberto had gradually acclimated up and gave a quite competitive fight, Terrance is leaping up two division after moving up to a division where he hasn't even settled in even if it was against a proper champion. Think Turki should rethink it, make Alvarez actually fight deserving opponents in his division like the winner of Mbilli-Sadjo, then fight next year against Pacheco or Iglesias after they get work done during 2025-2026. Or take hard challenges like Benavidez, Bivol rematch or Beterviev.
      hes not aggressive at all? he backpedaled and held the entire fight against shishkin who easily beat him and almost ko'd him. this guy is a joke and canelo knows it, thats why hes fighting him and not saying "i need 200 million to fight scull" like he did with benavidez.
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      • #43
        Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

        I think you're underestimating how good Madrimov is.
        He's not that good. He will get battered by virgil

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        • #44
          I fully expected it given the circumstance and makes total sense. With September Crawford being all but official no way Turki would give up on the idea to make it an "undisputed" fight. Is it a great opponent anyone wanted? Absolutely not, but Canelo wasn't going to fight anyone with any sliver of danger before the Crawford money fight.

          Looking at it the other way, it atleast makes more sense than a YouTuber or the essentially retired Jermall, and if the choice is between Surace or Scull might as well choose the one with the strap on it.
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          • #45
            Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

            I think you're underestimating how good Madrimov is.
            Its amazing, they just don't see the fighter they only see hype and the record, if its not full of big fights youre a bum, fans for the most part don't know boxing, was Duran not Duran being beat by Laing, Ali Spinks, Mayweather Maidana, Manny Horn etc etc, the list of struggles greats have had with contenders is a mile long, Madimov is very awkward was in shape and had nothing to lose, that's the key to most fights where a great appeared to struggle with somebody they should not have, its boxing its always been this way, greats are not greats on every night in the office but they operate on such a high level consistently they get through the rough spots and shine like gold in others.
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            • #46
              Originally posted by daggum View Post

              hes not aggressive at all? he backpedaled and held the entire fight against shishkin who easily beat him and almost ko'd him. this guy is a joke and canelo knows it, thats why hes fighting him and not saying "i need 200 million to fight scull" like he did with benavidez.
              Against Shishkin he decided to box and pick his shots until he knew he could be more offensive, but normally he is aggressive fighter that throw combinations, think Alvarez already knows that he will find openings and counter Scull, whose record suggest that his punching power just is not that big of a risk. If Scull would fight Alvarez's recent 4-5 fights, he likely win 80% of the time excluding the quite declined GGG. Which says much of the quality of the opposition Canelo has been fighting after he lost in 2022. (Which isn't much.)

              Scull is a also quite a better option than Surace a Middleweight that pulled the upset after losing all the rounds against Munguia and a inactive Charlo whose not that accomplished compared to his twin who shouldn't had moved up two divisions.

              Have to rewatch the fight with the Shishkin, but didn't think it was so one sided that it be a robbery.

              His arguments of not fighting Benavidez are just cop outs, which so far he has contradicted himself multiple times shortly after. He asked 4x the pay of his biggest PPVs fights, said Benavidez's manners is the not reason the fight is not happening despite Plant, Saunders and Berlanga being loud mouths, and somehow he complains about weight disparity despite literally competing in the same divisions, despite that he is the one willingly fought both smaller fighters coming up along with some other fighters having rehydrated up to 180-190. The mental gymnastics his fanbase make is also quite unreasonable.
              Last edited by Malvado; 02-08-2025, 09:04 PM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post
                For quite some time, Canelo Alvarez is going to fight a good legitimate opponent in William Scull after his loss to Bivol. I don't like the way he was maneuvering his career, but this of a few of his recent fights I say are worth watching, also depends of the undercard.

                Not the most entertaining fight since his opponent isn't a big puncher nor exceptionally skilled, however William is a full fledged Super Middleweight, a physically at his best and without the IBF belt, would be a top 10 fighter at 168.

                Scull is a aggressive and well rounded fighter with average power, he will likely get moments of success against Alvarez, but will eventually get clipped with a KD and then outboxed throughout the fight.

                Scull by normal means, wouldn't easily had gotten the belt, but earned it by beating a undefeated top 5 IBF ranked fighter in Shishkin who beat Jose Uzcategui (32-4, 27 KOs), even if the fight wasn't the most exciting. A fair good fight, not a great PPV fight.

                Still though I think fighting a 154 pounder that debuted at 135 is not really good move, this isn't Duran vs Hagler where Roberto had gradually acclimated up and gave a quite competitive fight, Terrance is leaping up two division after moving up to a division where he hasn't even settled in even if it was against a proper champion. Think Turki should rethink it, make Alvarez actually fight deserving opponents in his division like the winner of Mbilli-Sadjo, then fight next year against Pacheco or Iglesias after they get work done during 2025-2026. Or take hard challenges like Benavidez, Bivol rematch or Beterviev. Fights that should had happened quite some time ago.

                Canelo vs Crawford would be more credible if he won a belt at 160 immediately and then fought a legitimate 168 pounder.
                Let me try to understand and make Sense of your post

                Not the most entertaining fight since his opponent isn't a big puncher nor exceptionally skilled, however William is a full fledged Super Middleweight, a physically at his best and without the IBF belt, would be a top 10 fighter at 168.​

                You said so I’m insinuating you mean Scull ain’t that good

                Then you continue with this ; Scull is a aggressive and well rounded fighter with average power, he will likely get moments of success against Alvarez, but will eventually get clipped with a KD and then outboxed throughout the fight.​

                My understanding the guy should be there talent wise and skill wise

                Then we get this from you ; Scull by normal means, wouldn't easily had gotten the belt, but earned it by beating a undefeated top 5 IBF ranked fighter in Shishkin who beat Jose Uzcategui (32-4, 27 KOs), even if the fight wasn't the most exciting. A fair good fight, not a great PPV fight.​

                Which is a huge lei as he had no business getting that win
                They robbed Shishkin and never looked back
                If you don’t believe me then make a post and see what others will tell you

                Next up is some gibberish to kindly recognize that you are a Canelo nuthugger but still in the closet

                I think this might be the most contradictory post I have ever seen on BS

                Smfh

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                  Let me try to understand and make Sense of your post

                  Not the most entertaining fight since his opponent isn't a big puncher nor exceptionally skilled, however William is a full fledged Super Middleweight, a physically at his best and without the IBF belt, would be a top 10 fighter at 168.​

                  You said so I’m insinuating you mean Scull ain’t that good

                  Then you continue with this ; Scull is a aggressive and well rounded fighter with average power, he will likely get moments of success against Alvarez, but will eventually get clipped with a KD and then outboxed throughout the fight.​

                  My understanding the guy should be there talent wise and skill wise

                  Then we get this from you ; Scull by normal means, wouldn't easily had gotten the belt, but earned it by beating a undefeated top 5 IBF ranked fighter in Shishkin who beat Jose Uzcategui (32-4, 27 KOs), even if the fight wasn't the most exciting. A fair good fight, not a great PPV fight.​

                  Which is a huge lei as he had no business getting that win
                  They robbed Shishkin and never looked back
                  If you don’t believe me then make a post and see what others will tell you

                  Next up is some gibberish to kindly recognize that you are a Canelo nuthugger but still in the closet

                  I think this might be the most contradictory post I have ever seen on BS

                  Smfh
                  Whats with Schizo behavior, I wasn't even replying to your post. You are just being paranoid and can't take criticism that was not even being thrown at you. You didn't even reply properly to the points I was making.

                  I said that statistically this is a good fight against legitimate 168 pounder, nothing exceptional. Good fight though not PPV worthy, Alvarez should be fighting proper Super Middleweights that actually earned their keep, at least compared to what he has been facing since his loss in 2022. Excluding a aged GGG, Scull realistically would had beaten Berlanga, Munguia, Ryder and Charlo, just because he is skilled enough and belongs at the division.

                  I also mentioned I have to rewatch the fight of Scull vs Shishkin, where I thought that the fight was competitive. Doesn't mean I bet that Scull was definite winner.
                  Last edited by Malvado; 02-08-2025, 09:03 PM.

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                  • #49
                    anything to avoid benavidez

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post

                      Whats with Schizo behavior, I wasn't even replying to your post. You are just being paranoid and can't take criticism that was not even being thrown at you. You didn't even reply properly to the points I was making.

                      I said that statistically this is a good fight against legitimate 168 pounder, nothing exceptional. Good fight though not PPV worthy, Alvarez should be fighting proper Super Middleweights that actually earned their keep, at least compared to what he has been facing since his loss in 2022.

                      I also mentioned I have to rewatch the fight of Scull vs Shishkin, where I thought that the fight was competitive. Doesn't mean I bet that Scull was definite winner.
                      I never said that you guaranteed anything
                      For someone who posted something he legitimately thinks is not wrong , you are one fughin paranoid fughin freak
                      Calling me schizophrenic
                      Take a look at your post and tell me it’s not contradictory ???
                      And again your on a fughin boxing board where EVERYONE can see your post and comment

                      Now maybe pm him and have your personal schizoid conversation since you don’t react well to criticism when in fact it wasn’t criticism but actually trying to understand your post

                      It’s ok though cause the cat is out of the bag you fughin nuthugger

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