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Shroud of turin was easily debunked so not sure why you had such trouble with that? I mean it appeared 1300 years after jesus so that should be a red flag. Not to mention carbon dating, fabric used, design used are all consistent with 14 century which is when it was found/made.
I considered myself a hardcore atheist, before coming back to faith. For a long time, however, I found myself trying to confirm my beliefs through various means. (A very common thing among atheists: always trying to support their argument, to themselves or to others.) Late one night, a few years ago, I found myself researching the Shroud of Turin. Don’t know why. As I delved into the topic, I was intent on debunking it to confirm my beliefs. I could find nothing to reconcile my thought that the Holy Shroud must be a forgery, as many atheists would claim. I gave up the search in the wee-hours, and chalked up the mystery to one of those unexplained phenomena that, although unresolved, must have a non-supernatural explanation. Sometime thereafter, I had a life-altering experience that inspired me to reach out to God. An atheist would say that this is typical, but only the person who goes through it truly knows. No one can prove the existence or non-existence of God. Even the great apologists can’t convince a dyed-in-the-wool atheist by their arguments alone. It takes something that, I now believe, doesn’t come solely from man.
If you’re interested, here are some sources you might want to explore: Bart Ehrman, PHD, a biblical scholar and former Evangelical, has written many books on Christianity. I read two — Jesus, Interrupted and How Jesus Became God. These were fascinating books; and although written through an atheist/agnostic perspective, they have value for believers as well. C.S. Lewis, the great scholar and Christian apologist, was a converted atheist. Mere Christianity is considered a must-read. I also read his Surprised by Joy, which is a partial biography and details his conversion. And although it’s debatable whether Leo Tolstoy actually accepted Christ as his savior, or merely admired the beatitudes, his religious experience is worthwhile exploring. Tolstoy, one of history’s greatest writers, was suicidal for a full year, beginning at about age 50. He had been an atheist, killed in war (murdered, in his own words) and slept with countless women. He was also a wealthy count. Yet, it took the inspiration of Christ to bring him back to life.
One can find a great number of sources that would support their belief or disbelief in God and/or Christ. There have been geniuses on both sides of the argument. I know better than to insist. I know what it was like to be an atheist; my words would fall on deaf ears. One can only point. Everyone has to take their own path. My best to you.
Also this ignores the question of even if it was from the time of Jesus that proves nothing. It certainly doesn't prove God is real orJesus was real. All it would prove is someone made a shroud with a guy on it and that somehow equals proof of god? Giant leap there. Also Chain of custody? All these artifacts are pretty clearly fan fiction made after the fact.
I dont really believe your I was an atheist story. It's just something religious people often say to try and make their case stronger when they don't have one based on facts so they rely on their personal experience. You don't have to debunk anything. Religious people have to prove its real and they can't. On the other hand many things in the bible can and have been debunked which should make you question its legitimacy.
Like others said the Jesus story was already out there long before Jesus so it's very convenient that Jesus came along and the same thing that happened to other gods or in other stories happened to him? They just didn't have much of an imagination and aped off other legends and myths of the time. same way joseph Smith did it. No one would seriously say mormonism is a real thing. If someone found some gold plates in 1000 years they would say look it's the gold plates josepth smith was right! Really now?Last edited by daggum; 02-07-2025, 12:02 PM.Leave a comment:
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Lmao..we gonna have to get him one of these for the Andre the Giant sausage fingers he sportin'
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I considered myself a hardcore atheist, before coming back to faith. For a long time, however, I found myself trying to confirm my beliefs through various means. (A very common thing among atheists: always trying to support their argument, to themselves or to others.) Late one night, a few years ago, I found myself researching the Shroud of Turin. Don’t know why. As I delved into the topic, I was intent on debunking it to confirm my beliefs. I could find nothing to reconcile my thought that the Holy Shroud must be a forgery, as many atheists would claim. I gave up the search in the wee-hours, and chalked up the mystery to one of those unexplained phenomena that, although unresolved, must have a non-supernatural explanation. Sometime thereafter, I had a life-altering experience that inspired me to reach out to God. An atheist would say that this is typical, but only the person who goes through it truly knows. No one can prove the existence or non-existence of God. Even the great apologists can’t convince a dyed-in-the-wool atheist by their arguments alone. It takes something that, I now believe, doesn’t come solely from man.
If you’re interested, here are some sources you might want to explore: Bart Ehrman, PHD, a biblical scholar and former Evangelical, has written many books on Christianity. I read two — Jesus, Interrupted and How Jesus Became God. These were fascinating books; and although written through an atheist/agnostic perspective, they have value for believers as well. C.S. Lewis, the great scholar and Christian apologist, was a converted atheist. Mere Christianity is considered a must-read. I also read his Surprised by Joy, which is a partial biography and details his conversion. And although it’s debatable whether Leo Tolstoy actually accepted Christ as his savior, or merely admired the beatitudes, his religious experience is worthwhile exploring. Tolstoy, one of history’s greatest writers, was suicidal for a full year, beginning at about age 50. He had been an atheist, killed in war (murdered, in his own words) and slept with countless women. He was also a wealthy count. Yet, it took the inspiration of Christ to bring him back to life.
One can find a great number of sources that would support their belief or disbelief in God and/or Christ. There have been geniuses on both sides of the argument. I know better than to insist. I know what it was like to be an atheist; my words would fall on deaf ears. One can only point. Everyone has to take their own path. My best to you.Leave a comment:
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I might be going through some **** ... maybe
Oh, stop. I was an atheist for 25 years. I read and believed all that bulls hit and more for far too long. One thing I learned in my previous life was that you can’t convince a believer that there’s no God, and you can’t convince an atheist that there is one. So save it. Everyone finds their way…or not.
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The Jesus character is actually a modified version of the older Krishna character from Hinduism. Krishna was invented around 1000 years before Christ. Even their names are similar for a reason. And the Krishna character was modified from older god characters. When you check out the history of religions, it's pretty fascinating to discover where the writers of the stories draw their influences from. For example, there's a Sumerian goddess called Inanna which they invented around 4000 years ago. She died for 3 days and 3 nights but was resurrected by her father, another god called Enki..
Like the source of all the sources? Jesus has a lot of overlap with quite a few ancient characters, especially Greek ones.
There were quite a few Messiahs around the time frame for Jesus's life. Most of which dealt in the same basics and of course those basics can be traced back to the earliest religions but I've never heard anyone just say - This one is the source for them all.
If you take yourself back to that timeframe, about 300 years before Theodosius and the Christianization of Rome; Roman tolerance of other religions was at an all time high and while you might see, say in a biopic, others preaching as Jesus did, on the street to the masses who would stop for them, I don't often see that economy explained.
It was common for regular people to not believe they knew the proper ways to commune with gods. Including the ***s and ***ish God. Likewise, it was common for men who were trained in ritual to conduct rituals for hire. This is what's important to understand, that freelance ritual leader is not necessarily in any way ordained by anything. His credentials are his ability to conduct the ritual not preach or teach you anything. The preaching is their marketing. They stand outside and preach what they know of their religion hoping to catch the ear of someone who has recently lost a loved one or wants to get married or ask forgiveness, or predict the future, you know ... bunch of God and gods bull.
And so, by the time Jesus is there to preach, if we assume he is at all, one may not need to know who Krishna is per se, but they will know of the 12 olympians, 12 zodiacs, 12 tribes, etc. leaving you with a whole heaps of "messiah" who more or less preach the same thing.
This is also a time when mankind easily accepts the idea a living and dying human might be the son of a god. It wouldn't be but 500 years prior people believed this so strongly just being named after a god afforded you special treament.Leave a comment:
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I don’t like this place as much as I used to, but at least the articles have appreciably improved. Before, they would take a single interview and chop it up into several “interviews.” It was pathetic in another sense.Leave a comment:

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