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Originally posted by JonDP View Post
If Benavidez hit as hard as some people think, Morrell would have been laid out, but he wasn't even really hurt. It's just like Morrell said, he's no real monster.Damn Wicked likes this.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostCongratulation's to David Benavidez, but? I am wondering why certain folk in the boxing community and media are heralding this win of Benavidez as some sort of coronation? In my perspective, David Benavidez has now fought two fights at 175 pounds, he has two wins, zero by stoppage or knockout'.
Canelo Alvarez still beats this version of Benavidez definitively at 168 pounds, goodness 'Benavidez was out of condition at 175 pounds, he will surely be there for the taking if he ever decides to complete within the 168 pound division again'.
Like I stated awhile back in regards to David Benavidez, he is for sure a World level fighter 'But I am yet still to witness any Elite level skills. It is clear now that he is competing in the 175 divisions, his opponent's are no longer wilting under the bombardment of his pressure and offensive power like they were in the 168 pound division. Benavidez has beaten two solid fighters, with his aggression and pressuring fighting skills. None of the fighters he has fought thus-far have appeared skill for skill to be miles apart from Benavidez'.
Canelo Alvarez in comparison, a fighter who I have never regarded as a monster puncher 'Still has knockout wins at 175 pounds, against superior fighters than Oleksandr Gvozdyk and David Morrell Junior. The version of Sergey Kovalev, who Alvarez fought? Is A superior fighter than Gvozdyk and Morrel Junior'.
Note: Yes, and I know? Alvarez forced Kovalev into a very condense training camp i.e Sergey Kovalev only had approximately 6 weeks of full training and preparation for his fight against Canelo Alvarez. But Kovalev was already in fight condition, as he had recently fought only just on th 24 August 2019. Canelo Alvarez vs Sergey Kovalev was staged on 2nd November 2019. So as you can imagine? It was a very condense training camp for Sergey Kovalev. As he would of firstly eased back on his training after his WBO title defense on the 24 August, then at some point jumped back into high intensity preparation for Canelo Alvarez. That has been a tactic which Canelo Alvarez has used a few times on his opponent's, and I have always personally thought? It was completely unnecessary. But regardless, fighters should always be close to fighting conditioning and ready to take opportunities in the game.
Back onto David Benavidez vs David Morrell Junior, who was the challenger here? It was a sold win, but nothing more than that for Benavidez. Morrell Junior at top level has achieve nothing much in the professional ranks, infact? Oleksandr Gvozdyk I would most likely rate that win higher than David Morrell Junior.
To conclude: If David Benavidez really desires to fight Canelo Alvarez 'Then he needs to push for that fight at 175 pounds. If he makes that fight at 168 pounds, it will be a similar fight dynamic to when Chad Dawson fought Andre Ward at 168 pounds. Chad Dawson after beating Bernard Hopkins in their rematch. Got carried away in the moment and called out Andre Ward for a fight at 168 pounds. The very moment Dawson made that challenge, he had made the fight vs Andre Ward many times more difficult. Dawson in my opinion had the ability to really push Ward, but he beat himself by forcing the fight at 168 pounds'.
I would much rather see David Benavidez vs Canelo Alvarez at 175 pounds 'Benavidez moved up into the 175 pound Divisions, because he could no longer continually to weight drain himself to make the 168 pound limit' etc.Last edited by factsarenice; 02-02-2025, 10:47 AM.
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I applaud David Benavidez Jr for taking the fight with Morrell while he is still young and in his prime to give his best performance. He didn't follow the Floyd Mayweather Jr. school of ducking guys until they get a little older and fading. He brought the fight to Morrell from the first round. He worked behind the jab well, stayed consistent in his body attacks and popped uppercuts followed by right hands. Morrell is a good fighter but very inexperienced at the pro ranks. Morrell had some good rounds but what it came down to was that his power was not enough to hurt Benavidez.
I had Benavidez winning that fight.Damn Wicked likes this.
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Originally posted by JonDP View Post
If they fight, which is still possible, Canelo is not just going to give Benavidez spaghetti legs a couple of times like Morrell did, his going to take him out.
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Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks View Post
I do believe the ginger got enough left in the tank to beat Benavidez in a tough fight, but to stop him? ...yeah, I dont think so buddy.
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This fight showed the lack of experience of Morrell. After two rounds he was already blowing. Hats off to him because I thought Benavidez would finish him late. Benavidez wasn't even breathing hard until late in the fight. Morrell needs better conditioning and a better coach. Benavidez has a terrible body. He looks fat. He stands no chance of beating Beterbiev, and he gets outboxed by Bivol.
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So much for the Canelo fans hiding behind “he won’t fight and win against Morell” so I take it they will move to beterbiev while Canelo goes for another payday against another undersized foe in Crawford. You can find the Canelo manhood in a jar on the Benavidez family fireplace mantel.
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Originally posted by byfbnz View PostBen looked better against morell than he did against gvozdyk. rather see a rematch with gvozdyk to remove any suspisions i have. maybe ben was just out of shape when he fought gvozdyk.
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Originally posted by JonDP View Post
If Benavidez hit as hard as some people think, Morrell would have been laid out, but he wasn't even really hurt. It's just like Morrell said, he's no real monster.
George Chuvalo is the poster boy for those kind of guys. Have we seen enough of Morrell to know? He might be that tough. I think Benavidez hits hard enough to make him competitive, if not dominant, with anyone. I hope we see him against Beterbiev to answer some questions.
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