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  • #51
    Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

    Odd how everyone was high on Anderson, but now act like Anderson is trash.
    Anderson isn't trash. But MANY of us were saying that he gets hit way too much to survive at the highest levels at heavyweight without cleaning up his defense, and that his lack of motivation was not going to do him any favors, and, well, you saw what happened.

    I can't think of a single person on here who actually thought Anderson was what the Top Rank media hype people were claiming he was. Could he get there? Maybe, but he would have to actually LIKE boxing enough to want to improve his craft and put in the work to become a champion and stay a champion. I think many people knew the hype wasn't going to last as soon as he started talking about retirement and how he didn't like boxing and didn't want to be champion. That included his promoters, who otherwise wouldn't have put him in with Bakole at that point in his career.

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    • #52
      People are allowed to big Bakole up to the hills. If you dont want him overated, then beat him then. Until then he will claim he beat you in sparring. You want to shut him up. Beat him in the pro ranks then.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

        Odd how everyone was high on Anderson, but now act like Anderson is trash.
        Anderson all but got exposed vs Martin and even before that there was very little to prop up the hype around him.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

          At their absolute peak? I think Carlos Takam is definitively better than Efe Ajagba. The reason why I think, beating Ajagba will be his best win 'Is mainly due to the timing of the fight, and the stage of Ajagba's career. Efe Ajagba is in my opinion in his best form ever, and he is unbeaten'.

          I just don't rate Martin Bakale skill for skill, and? His lack of abilities in that area may show up in this fight. Efe Ajagba and his team, have got to be aware that 'They have to avoid Bakale's power, and essentially just out boxed him. So, I want to see how Bakole reacts in that sort of situation'.

          The last time Bakole was in a fight were he encountered serious resistance 'The facts are he did not overcome that resistance to win. Michael Hunter a former cruiserweight fighter, who was not really renowned for his power punching or brute strength. In a competitive fight, beat down Bakole'.

          Note: I will admit that Efe Ajagba's resume is not super impressive, but? He has been involved in fights, were there has been heavy resistance for him to overcome. Like during his last fight against Guido Vianello. Which was a very similar fight, and situation to the Michael Hunter vs Martin Bakole fight. Efe Ajagba when he found himself in that fight situation, reacted and withstood that level of violence better than Martin Bakole.

          So, if this fight between Bakole and Ajagba develops in to that kind of fight 'And Ajagba is able to ether evade or withstand Bakole's power enough for him to stay in the fight. That kind of match up will now put serious pressure on the fighters overall conditioning, and skill for skill ability to accumulative points over the distance'.

          In that sort of fight, with that type of action 'I will give Efe Ajagba a chance of beating Martin Bakole'.

          To conclude: Martin Bakole is the big favourite to win in my perspective, and he should win this fight 'But I just wonder? How he performs in this fight could potentially alter the universal perception the boxing community and media currently have of him. Bakole's aura of intimidation, is at its absolute peak. The media and even certain folk from within the boxing community are constantly amplifying his brute strength and power'.

          There is a big potential that after this fight, even during a win 'That the Bakole's aura of intimidation, may be altered dramatically'. If he is dropping rounds consistently to Ajagba, and being whacked. There is no way in my opinion, Martin Bakole should be rated as a Elite level threat to the top level heavyweight fighters'

          I would back Anthony Joshua to beat Martin Bakole 'Stylistically outside of the brute strength and power. I don't regard that match up as a super difficult fight for Joshua. Bakole's boxing ability, is miles below Joshua's'.

          For me to rate Martin Bakole as a World to Elite level threat 'I need to see more of his game, against top level fighters' etc.


          Ajagba lost to Frank Sanchez.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

            Ajagba lost to Frank Sanchez.
            You are right, still? The comparisons between Ajagba's loss vs Bakole's loss 'I honestly believe Efe Ajagba, when he has been in tough pressurizing fights? He has fought better in those situations than Martin Bakole, whether that is during a win or a loss'.

            Efe Ajagba vs Frank Sanchez skill for skill, was a higher level fight than Martin Bakale vs Michael Hunter.

            If there is one fighter, who is underrated within the Heavyweight Division 'And in my opinion, is more deserving of being rated as a World to Elite level threat. That fighter is Frank Sanchez'.

            If Ajagba can withstand Bakole's power and brute strength 'Then we have to compare each fighter's abilities skill for skill, and when you do that? Efe Ajagba is the better fighter. Ajagba is most likely in better overall condition, and he has never lost a fight due to that area of his game being at fault'.

            While in comparison Martin Bakole lost his fight vs Michael Hunter, in my opinion due to having no real great attributes outside of his power and brute strength 'Bakole's endurance in that fight was also a factor in my opinion why he wilted under the heavy bombardment of Hunter'.

            Note: I think most top level heavyweight fighters, and trainers 'Are aware of what the blue print is to beat Martin Bakole. He has yet to display any real World level boxing ability, and in all honesty? Even during his best wins, and so called great performances. Skill for skill he does not really appear to be a great fighter'.

            There is no denying that Martin Bakole has power and brute strength 'But for me personally, if I am to rate a fighter as a World to Elite level threat, they will have to display and more complete game'.

            To conclude: Martin Bakole is the favourite to win, and? Yes Ajagba does not seem invulnerable to physical attacks 'Ajagba has been hurt badly in fights, but? He does show a solid level of resolve and determination to compete even when hurt and plunge into those turbulent situations'.

            I am not going to totally write off a fighter, with Efe Ajagba's ability, competitiveness and resolve 'Martin Bakole vs Efe Ajagba, is actually one of the better Heavyweight match ups outside of any title fights, that has been made in recent years'.

            It is a pivotal fight, and moment in each fighters careers 'Similar to Daniel Dubois vs Filip Hrgovic' etc.
            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-01-2025, 09:45 AM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

              You are right, still? The comparisons between Ajagba's loss vs Bakole's loss 'I honestly believe Efe Ajagba, when he has been in tough pressurizing fights? He has fought better in those situations than Martin Bakole, whether that is during a win or a loss'.

              Efe Ajagba vs Frank Sanchez skill for skill, was a higher level fight than Martin Bakale vs Michael Hunter.

              If there is one fighter, who is underrated within the Heavyweight Division 'And in my opinion, is more deserving of being rated as a World to Elite level threat. That fighter is Frank Sanchez'.

              If Ajagba can withstand Bakole's power and brute strength 'Then we have to compare each fighter's abilities skill for skill, and when you do that? Efe Ajagba is the better fighter. Ajagba is most likely in better overall condition, and he has never lost a fight due to that area of his game being at fault'.

              While in comparison Martin Bakole lost his fight vs Michael Hunter, in my opinion due to having no real great attributes outside of his power and brute strength 'Bakole's endurance in that fight was also a factor in my opinion why he wilted under the heavy bombardment of Hunter'.

              Note: I think most top level heavyweight fighters, and trainers 'Are aware of what the blue print is to beat Martin Bakole. He has yet to display any real World level boxing ability, and in all honesty? Even during his best wins, and so called great performances. Skill for skill he does not really appear to be a great fighter'.

              There is no denying that Martin Bakole has power and brute strength 'But for me personally, if I am to rate a fighter as a World to Elite level threat, they will have to display and more complete game'.

              To conclude: Martin Bakole is the favourite to win, and? Yes Ajagba does not seem invulnerable to physical attacks 'Ajagba has been hurt badly in fights, but? He does show a solid level of resolve and determination to compete even when hurt and plunge into those turbulent situations'.

              I am not going to totally write off a fighter, with Efe Ajagba's ability, competitiveness and resolve 'Martin Bakole vs Efe Ajagba, is actually one of the better Heavyweight match ups outside of any title fights, that has been made in recent years'.

              It is a pivotal fight, and moment in each fighters careers 'Similar to Daniel Dubois vs Filip Hrgovic' etc.
              I'm not saying Bakole is the next George Foreman. I'm saying that I've yet to see him hurt. He lost the Hunter fight due to injury. Hunter wasn't hurting him. Let's be real. Against an aging Cuban like Sanchez, Ajagba looked very ordinary and vanilla. If he can't stay on the outside and control Bakole with the long jab, Ajagba is not winning this fight. It's very simple. Bakole has some similarities to Ray Mercer, only he seems meaner.

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