Comments Thread For: Ryan Garcia: 'I'm excited to vindicate my victory' against Devin Haney

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

And still no noise from Boots

It would be nice to hear what he's got say in this matter...

[MulaKO]

It would be nice to hear what he's got say in this matter...

Definitely
I know I’d be trying to make noise anyway possible
Bad publicity is just that : publicity

[QballLobo]

I’ll be betting on Haney getting a win in a rematch.

Ryan is not dedicated to the game and the time off being suspended will affect him.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

I’ll be betting on Haney getting a win in a rematch.

Ryan is not dedicated to the game and the time off being suspended will affect him.

That's a reasonable bet, but I'm gonna wait to see what he looks like in his next fight against pitbull or whoever it might be...

That being said, if Haney makes it a boring fight and stays away from Ryan's left hook, I see no reason why he doesn't win a UD.

[BrankoB]

That's a reasonable bet, but I'm gonna wait to see what he looks like in his next fight against pitbull or whoever it might be...

That being said, if Haney makes it a boring fight and stays away from Ryan's left hook, I see no reason why he doesn't win a UD.

That was a smart bet before the first fight but it turned out we were all wrong.

[champion4ever]

But that’s not true though.

We already had this discussion.

There’s in fact a massive chance VADA will NOT detect it. Especially if he had an expert the level of Memo on his team.

If that was the case, then why did Memo and Juan Manuel Marquez objected to random drug testing for his fight with Timothy Bradley under USADA? At the time, the NSAC only tested for urine samples which can easily be circumvented.

When Mosley fought Oscar De La Hoya in their rematch? He admitted under oath that he was on the juice that night. However, all of his tests came back negative because the NSAC didn't test any of his blood specimen just his urine.

VADA was created in order to detect the type of designer performance enhancing drugs that Mosley took; Which are not intravenously injected through the butt cheeks and cannot be traced through a simple urinalysis.

Which is why VADA test for both blood and urine specimen. HGH cannot be detected through a simple urine sample because its taken both topically and orally.

However, through a specimen of one's blood it can. In addition, designer PEDS can easily be detected/traced in both hair and finger nail follicles too. Remember that VADA draws blood from its clients as well.

That's how they can detect all suspicious substances in one's system. One cannot circumvent a VADA test unless someone has paid them to deliberately do so. It's almost next to impossible. Also, they use WADA labs for their testing.

[champion4ever]

Exactly but Cryan thinks otherwise .

I know. Chances are this bratty spoiled kid has probably been doping for several years now but has never been caught or tested for them before. He is the idiot.

Why would one agree to do random drug testing when they already know they are juicing? He's making the same mistake twice. Once again he has agreed to do VADA'S 24/7 365 day random drug testing program.

Chances are he just might pop dirty again. I just don't understand why he is doing this? He doesn't need Devin Haney. He is the cash cow. He can have his choice of any opponent. Who needs to go through that type of ordeal again.

Ryan asked the question; How did Devin's kid brother know that he was going to pop dirty. The real question he should be asking himself is why did he decide to dope up and pop dirty in the first place and even confessing to it.

When he knowingly agreed to do VADA's random drug testing? Dumb ass!

[IronDanHamza]

If that was the case, then why did Memo and Juan Manuel Marquez objected to random drug testing for his fight with Timothy Bradley under USADA? At the time, the NSAC only tested for urine samples which can easily be circumvented.

When Mosley fought Oscar De La Hoya in their rematch? He admitted under oath that he was on the juice that night. However, all of his tests came back negative because the NSAC didn't test any of his blood specimen just his urine.

VADA was created in order to detect the type of designer performance enhancing drugs that Mosley took; Which are not intravenously injected through the butt cheeks and cannot be traced through a simple urinalysis.

Which is why VADA test for both blood and urine specimen. HGH cannot be detected through a simple urine sample because its taken both topically and orally.

However, through a specimen of one's blood it can. In addition, designer PEDS can easily be detected/traced in both hair and finger nail follicles too. Remember that VADA draws blood from its clients as well.

That's how they can detect all suspicious substances in one's system. One cannot circumvent a VADA test unless someone has paid them to deliberately do so. It's almost next to impossible. Also, they use WADA labs for their testing.

That is just incredibly incorrect. Pretty sure I already explained this to you in layman’s terms, to which I thought you acknowledged but clearly not.

Why would you assert “one cannot circumvent a VADA test unless someone has paid them to do so” please break down to me how you could possibly come to that conclusion?

You’ve then continued on and said “It’s almost next to impossible” which is just laughably incorrect.

You’ve also made the claim “VADA was created in order to detect the type of designer performance enhancing drugs that Mosley took; Which are not intravenously injected through the butt cheeks and cannot be traced through a simple urinalysis.”

So a few things, you’re WAY OFF.

VADA was founded in 2011. I think you are referring to WADA (the lab) that was formed in 1999 to counteract the scandal from a year prior, and then USADA was formed to administer the testing a year later 2000.

Shane Mosley admitted to using EPO, not HGH. which is absolutely taken via injection. It also can be very easily detected via urine sample if you are not masking your drug use.

So long and short of it here is you are wrong from almost every angle and I would advise further revision.

Beating a VADA testing procedure is not only not “impossible” but it is not even difficult. With an expert in your corner it’s not only not difficult but quite simple. So, yeah, passing a VADA test means essentially nothing.

[IronDanHamza]

I know. Chances are this bratty spoiled kid has probably been doping for several years now but has never been caught or tested for them before. He is the idiot.

Why would one agree to do random drug testing when they already know they are juicing? He's making the same mistake twice. Once again he has agreed to do VADA'S 24/7 365 day random drug testing program.

Chances are he just might pop dirty again. I just don't understand why he is doing this? He doesn't need Devin Haney. He is the cash cow. He can have his choice of any opponent. Who needs to go through that type of ordeal again.

Ryan asked the question; How did Devin's kid brother know that he was going to pop dirty. The real question he should be asking himself is why did he decide to dope up and pop dirty in the first place and even confessing to it.

When he knowingly agreed to do VADA's random drug testing? Dumb ass!

You have quite literally just contradicted your own position in this post.

His fight with Haney wasn’t his first VADA testing procedure.

If it’s impossible to beat a VADA testing procedure, and you think that Ryan has been “doping for years”, how has he managed to only fail two drug tests out of what is likely bare minimum 50+ in total?

[champion4ever]

You have quite literally just contradicted your own position in this post.

His fight with Haney wasn’t his first VADA testing procedure.

If it’s impossible to beat a VADA testing procedure, and you think that Ryan has been “doping for years”, how has he managed to only fail two drug tests out of what is likely bare minimum 50+ in total?

Hamza as I have already stated. I have lots of respect for your boxing acumen and knowledge of the sport of boxing; Including this topic. I never once said that Ryan Garcia has never been randomly drug tested before.

I said quote "Chances are this bratty spoiled kid has probably been doping for several years now but has never been caught or tested for them before. I was making a hypothetical.

However, I could understand how that statement could be easily misconstrued. Therefore, I admit that I was wrong and misspoke.

He had indeed been randomly drug tested by VADA for the Gervonta Davis fight and passed them. So therefore, I apologize for my terrible blunder.

What I should have said that he has never been caught until now. However, back then he was of sound mind and body. He was fully aware of the repercussions of flunking a VADA test which is why he played it cool.

However, since that fight; Dude has just gone plain loco. It appears to me that he has suffered a mental breakdown; To the point where no longer gives a good damn about nothing.

That Tank Davis loss must have really ruined him. He hasn't been the same person since. Right now he needs help. He is mentally deteriorating.

What's worse is all of his sycophants, yes men and enablers are just going along for the ride by telling him what he wants to hear which is very sad.