Who is better? Joe Joyce or Luis Ortiz

[kafkod]

How many of these spam threads do you plan to make? We know you're an idiot you don't have to show us. Joyce was exposed. He's a perfect example of why your universe of rankings is so flawed: he had a gimmick and in a bad division he got away with just frenetic activity and arm punching for quite some time.

Joyce was 38 years old when he got KOd by Zhang. The same age Wilder was when he got KOd by Zhang.

Joe didn't get exposed. He started boxing late and just ran out of time.

[Marchegiano]

Eurobums protecting them euro bums.

Joyce too slow Joyce he got his ass kicked by over the hill contenders.

Ortiz has only ever lost to champions and never let it be easy.

[Nash out]

Luis Ortiz. The man had all the tools he just started at the top level way too late. His two fights with the real Deontay Wilder were great, and he'd easily beat the Clone of Wilder that Parker and Zhang beat, even now. Once Joyce's chin got cracked, it put an end to him, and his lost to Chisora 5.0 was the final straw. Nash out - His Majesty

[Shrap]

Eurobums protecting them euro bums.

Joyce too slow Joyce he got his ass kicked by over the hill contenders.

Ortiz has only ever lost to champions and never let it be easy.

Ortiz has never beaten a champion or anyone close to it. Joyce has beaten Dubois and Parker.

And Stiverne for all that's worth since it's a top Wilder win.

[Grimmer]

Not a fair comparison imo


Joyce is half the age of Ortiz

[daggum]

Ortiz has never beaten a champion or anyone close to it. Joyce has beaten Dubois and Parker.

And Stiverne for all that's worth since it's a top Wilder win.

joyce has beaten 2 of the top 3 heavyweights parker and dubois, oh and jennings who is ortiz' best win...but ortiz beats him in fantasy power!

[daggum]

Eurobums protecting them euro bums.

Joyce too slow Joyce he got his ass kicked by over the hill contenders.

Ortiz has only ever lost to champions and never let it be easy.

who did he beat though? whenever someone talks about losses you know they are cooked in the argument, joyce could lose his next 50 fights and he would still have a better resume than ortiz because he actually did something even if it was only for a short period. quality over quantity and longevity

[daggum]

Joyce was 38 years old when he got KOd by Zhang. The same age Wilder was when he got KOd by Zhang.

Joe didn't get exposed. He started boxing late and just ran out of time.

when wilder starts losing hes shot, when joyce starts losing hes exposed. fanboys say the darndest things

[Marchegiano]

who did he beat though? whenever someone talks about losses you know they are cooked in the argument, joyce could lose his next 50 fights and he would still have a better resume than ortiz because he actually did something even if it was only for a short period. quality over quantity and longevity

It's better to let people assume you're dumb as **** than to speak and confirm your dumbassery beyond all doubt.

[Marchegiano]

Ortiz has never beaten a champion or anyone close to it. Joyce has beaten Dubois and Parker.

And Stiverne for all that's worth since it's a top Wilder win.

Don't you bring reason into this, bring back that other dumber jabroni.