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  • A.B Counterhooks
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    #71
    Canelo jumped 2 div from 160 to beat a 175 champion, if he could doit, maybe TC great enough to pull it off too, it seems Turkiman got what he wanted and we'll see Canelo and Bud go at it in May.

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    • eco1
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      #72
      Originally posted by BirdSong
      people out ther still think canelo outboxes usyk lol oh dear thats just really funny stuff
      Check my sig, those Clenelo MF's are at it again?

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        #73
        Originally posted by Boxing Scene

        Canelo didn't beat GGG Mayweather Lara or Bivol and was losing every round to Khan. That should tell you something.
        Exaggerating a bit. I believe I had Canelo winning 2 or 3 rounds prior to the KO of Khan. Certainly round 5.

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          #74
          Originally posted by richardt

          Jones would have started going to the body very early and brought down DM's defense and then because the footwork difference was night and day, instead of just flurrying DM, he would have circled, pot shot and started busting up DM. DM would finally start showing resignation and finally Jones would light him up with flurries that he was holding out for the right moment - when DM has been broken down, power shot and flurries that the much slower DM would not have been able to deal with. Stoppage win for Jones around the mid point.
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          Couldn’t have said it better.

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            #75
            Originally posted by BirdSong

            some might argue that beterviev is a bettr boxer than bivol just a different style
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            I’m picking Bivol to beat Beterbiev in the rematch. It won’t even be close.

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              #76
              Originally posted by factsarenice

              The indisputable difference is that Canelo hand selected each and every opponent and Crawford fought the willing for the money that Arum offered because the PBC never offered Crawford a fight or a penny, nothing.

              Canelo hand picks opponents, and decides how much they'll get paid, on the date and location he picks, at the time that's most convenient, at the weight he chooses with whatever hydration clause and advantage he feels will give him an edge. At the same time every sanctioning body, network and judge have their thumb on the scale in favor of Canelo.

              The real question....how the fu<k can anyone lose with that kind of advantage?
              Canelo hand picked every oppponent? Canelo fought his way to the level he's at now by fighting his way up. You're talking business opinion, I'm talking about facts. Canelo became the A side and did what EVERY A side boxer does and did business as such. Even still, he fought his way up. People said Canelo was gonna duck Lara because he was high risk, low reward, and at the time it was how people talk about Benavidez. What did Canelo do, fight him. No clauses no special stipulations People said he would never fight Austin Trout. What did he do, fight him. People said Canelo was ducking GGG, he fought him. People ccomplained about the result, he fought him again. When Canelo said he wanted to move up, people said he would never fight Callum Smith or BJ Saunders. He moved up and cleaned out a division with each champion 1 by 1. What has Crawford done to compare? Other than Spence, who has Crawford fought and beat that says he is higher p4p than Canelo? We can have an mature educated discussion about that

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                #77
                Originally posted by ImDominicanLipz

                Canelo hand picked every oppponent? Canelo fought his way to the level he's at now by fighting his way up. You're talking business opinion, I'm talking about facts. Canelo became the A side and did what EVERY A side boxer does and did business as such. Even still, he fought his way up. People said Canelo was gonna duck Lara because he was high risk, low reward, and at the time it was how people talk about Benavidez. What did Canelo do, fight him. No clauses no special stipulations People said he would never fight Austin Trout. What did he do, fight him. People said Canelo was ducking GGG, he fought him. People ccomplained about the result, he fought him again. When Canelo said he wanted to move up, people said he would never fight Callum Smith or BJ Saunders. He moved up and cleaned out a division with each champion 1 by 1. What has Crawford done to compare? Other than Spence, who has Crawford fought and beat that says he is higher p4p than Canelo? We can have an mature educated discussion about that
                One has to be blinded by hate to overlook the bolded. Unfortunately many here are blinded by just that, hate. You don't have to be a fan boy, but why be a hater to the point where you can't have a reasonable discussion?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Rockybigblower

                  Thats not true. They both have Canelo in them.
                  LOOOOOL.

                  I'm talking about the dynamics, but fair enough

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks
                    Canelo jumped 2 div from 160 to beat a 175 champion, if he could doit, maybe TC great enough to pull it off too, it seems Turkiman got what he wanted and we'll see Canelo and Bud go at it in May.
                    Every time that gets mentioned, I get the temptation to add that Canelo was 29 yrs old when he fought Kovalev, while Crawford is 37 turning 38 this fall. Canelo has already fought at 168 the year prior to fighting at 175 for the first time, while Crawford fought at 154 the year prior going to 168 for the first time with no experience at 160.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Elheath
                      Every time that gets mentioned, I get the temptation to add that Canelo was 29 yrs old when he fought Kovalev, while Crawford is 37 turning 38 this fall. Canelo has already fought at 168 the year prior to fighting at 175 for the first time, while Crawford fought at 154 the year prior going to 168 for the first time with no experience at 160.
                      I don’t get your point

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