Usyk is P4P #1 now surely?

[ShoulderRoll]

Heavyweights rarely top the P4P list, but that doesn’t mean they can’t if an exceptional heavyweight comes along.

Someone with great skills that proves it against good opponents.

[billeau2]

He has the skills and the resume to back it up.

Like wees been saying... It's the dawn of the giant heavyweights!

Oh wait a minute...

[Boxing 112]

P4P Usyk beats none of the fighters listed

Lmao. Compare all their resumes at their 23rd fight. Name me a boxer who has a better one than Usyk

[JakeTheBoxer]

Sure.

Inoue an Crawfird are beating guys everybody expets them to beat.

90% of guys expected Usyk to lose to Joshua and Fury.

[hugh grant]

I got no problem usyk being no1. Nice guy.
But I think inoue stepped up and expected to win with no acclimatising. That's the only difference, the standards were a little higher for inoue.

[ShoulderRoll]

I got no problem usyk being no1. Nice guy.
But I think inoue stepped up and expected to win with no acclimatising. That's the only difference, the standards were a little higher for inoue.

What?

Usyk had to step in against a more dangerous group of opponents than Inoue has had to. And Inoue is still swerving his mandatory Akhmadaliev…who has Usyk ever swerved?

[Citizen Koba]

Yup, P4P.
A hypothetical scenario if all boxers were the same size.
Usyk is beating people who are twice the size - pre weigh in.

He'll never be greater than SRR or Ali for example though. They just have greater cultural significance, legacy and longevity.

Some people, just don't understand the difference. Seems to be lost to the young ones in the last 10 years who think they are the same thing.

Well not twice his size but 10% or even 20% heavier than him in the ring which equates to fighter someone 2 - 4 divisions higher in the lower weighclasses (there's approximately around 5% weight difference between classes from 140 - 175)... if P4P were to mean anything - and I personally don't really hold with it - that's a very valid point which should be taken into consideration. I used the figures just to give some grounds for making a comparison with guys in lower divisons who fight guys significantly bigger than themselves.

For reference I think Floyd came in around 150 against a 165ish Lb Canelo which is about 10% - roughly the difference between Usyk and Joshua

[HandsofIron]

Yes, best of this era too

[ShoulderRoll]

Sure.

Inoue an Crawfird are beating guys everybody expets them to beat.

90% of guys expected Usyk to lose to Joshua and Fury.

For sure he wasn’t expected to beat those guys. Then to beat both of them again in rematches just cemented his status.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

You hit the nail on the head with that pos poster...all he does is look for white glory in white athletes who finally win!!!...He's a race baiter...plain amd simple...but a lot of you are and can't help your pathetic selves!!!...

This pos is trying to get this to a 1000 replies that's all...but y'all dumb as hell for helpin' him and the moderators here are pure garbage!!!...

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/n...-triple-double

What men care about the WNBA???...On this bich jock strap cuz she white!!!...

Woah, nothing this shoulder roll cat has said in this thread is in the least bit racist nor indicates that he's looking for white glory in claiming that Usyk isn't the all time P4P king

How did his disagreement become racist or indicative of racism???

He's given Usyk his props, acknowledged that Usyk is the current P4P king and has given his reasons to why he feels Usyk is not the all time P4P king.

What gives???