Oleksandr Usyk is the greatest fighter since…

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

And usyk made Dubois quit..
You gonna bag Lennox for losing twice ? Ali for getting beat by Frazier who got flattened by big George, Manny for losing to Horn..
I dunno I feel people are just looking for excuses to belittle usyks achievements.

People don’t like to admit they were wrong. Happens all the time on here. Instead of giving the winner credit, they instead try to discredit the loser and/or the accomplishment.

[Mammoth]

I don’t know why you even commented in this thread tbh.

The title was the greatest since. Usyk i felt was the best fighter since Floyd. The rest of this is for the birds.

[shawnkemp804]

Mate shut the fuck up. I was literally agreeing with your basic premise you soft cunt.

Now you’re just talking nonsense if you think Usyk couldn’t beat Bruce Seldon.

Unless you are saying Seldon could beat AJ and Fury?

Lol I don't need a ****** Brit agreeing with me. Shouldn't you be brushing your teeth or something? As I said you goofy moron you weren't agreeing with me and I don't want you to agree with me. You are a moron who thinks Usyk could hang with Bowe and Holyfield because he beat a drug addicted Tyson Fury. You are just as much as a moron as the rest of these people.

Bruce Seldon at his peak could beat Joshua because Seldon was better than Andy Ruiz who beat him. Bruce Seldon at his peak would of mopped the floor with this drugg addicted Tyson Fury because Seldon was better than a guy like 180 pound Steve Cunningham who almost knocked out a peak Fury. Also I bet you don't even know who Bruce Seldon was. You dumb Europeans never know what you are talking about. I bet you don't know who guys like Tony Tucker was either who would also beat Usyk. Tony Tucker only lost to 2 people in his prime. Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis and even by the time Tucker got beat by Lewis he was on the down side of his career.

When Usyk could beat guys like Derek Chisora more convincely then get back to me. Until then Usyk is straight trash and couldn't beat any half way decent boxer from the time Ali became champion until Lennox Lewis retired.

[HisExcellency]

Manny Pacquiao is definitely the best fighter since Roy Jones NOT Usyk. After all, he managed to capture world titles in 8 weight classes despite starting his career at Flyweight whereas Usyk has ‘only’ conquered 2 divisions.

Also, whilst he’s had a couple of mishaps along the way, that’s what happens when you try to conquer 8 divisions despite starting your career at 112lbs. Let’s not forget that he still has winning records overall against both Morales & Marquez too.

Finally, Pacquiao was a much BIGGER box office draw and one of the few fighters who had the same freakish athleticism as Roy Jones in terms of hand speed, foot speed and punching power.

[BirdSong]

When Usyk could beat guys like Derek Chisora more convincely then get back to me. .

i think u might have to take account of someone just moving up to the heavy division, i think i remember usyk took a long time to get right into it with some setbacks

[IronDanHamza]

Lol I don't need a ****** Brit agreeing with me. Shouldn't you be brushing your teeth or something? As I said you goofy moron you weren't agreeing with me and I don't want you to agree with me. You are a moron who thinks Usyk could hang with Bowe and Holyfield because he beat a drug addicted Tyson Fury. You are just as much as a moron as the rest of these people.

Bruce Seldon at his peak could beat Joshua because Seldon was better than Andy Ruiz who beat him. Bruce Seldon at his peak would of mopped the floor with this drugg addicted Tyson Fury because Seldon was better than a guy like 180 pound Steve Cunningham who almost knocked out a peak Fury. Also I bet you don't even know who Bruce Seldon was. You dumb Europeans never know what you are talking about. I bet you don't know who guys like Tony Tucker was either who would also beat Usyk. Tony Tucker only lost to 2 people in his prime. Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis and even by the time Tucker got beat by Lewis he was on the down side of his career.

When Usyk could beat guys like Derek Chisora more convincely then get back to me. Until then Usyk is straight trash and couldn't beat any half way decent boxer from the time Ali became champion until Lennox Lewis retired.

Please.

Bruce Seldon was a joke. Please tell me who “peak” Seldon beat for you to have this opinion.

You’re either trolling or you’re retarded. But either way you’re a clown.

[dan_cov]

I’m agreeing with you

I think he could hang, as in be amongst them. That’s my opinion based off styles and fantasy H2H match ups.

Do I think he could beat Lewis or Holyfield? No I don’t.

Tyson and Bowe? Probably not either, maybe.

It’s obviously not a stretch to say he has the ability to be amongst them though.

Its maybe worth noting that Lewis only fought one southpaw (some journeyman) and openly expressed how much he hated facing them. I do not think Tyson and Bowe ever fought a single southpaw, none come to mind at least.
Holyfield fought 4 with me ignoring the Belfort fight. 1-1 with Moorer and losses to Chris Byrd & Ibragimov. Past his best for sure but I think it'd be a fair assumption to say he wasn't the best vs southpaws.

For me in fantasy H2H match ups I'd not be confident picking anybody over Usyk while this era is far from the best they are infinitely more experienced with southpaws. I find it impossible to see anyone with no or very limited experience vs southpaws fairing well vs Usyk who has the most complex southpaw style of the lot. Anytime anyone figures him or starts having success he finds the adjustment and another gear, he is just a very unique and special fighter.

[daggum]

Since deontay wilder. I wonder if usyk could survive the biggest puncher in boxing history...nope he couldn't

[JimRaynor]

Again I could take what you typed as being serious if you weren't white. Everything I typed is 100 percent fact. You are white, you are biased, you don't know anything about boxing because to pretend to like whatever fighter who is white.

Son were you dropped on your head as a baby? Usyk and Fury are both white, wtf are you going on about.

[IronDanHamza]

Its maybe worth noting that Lewis only fought one southpaw (some journeyman) and openly expressed how much he hated facing them. I do not think Tyson and Bowe ever fought a single southpaw, none come to mind at least.
Holyfield fought 4 with me ignoring the Belfort fight. 1-1 with Moorer and losses to Chris Byrd & Ibragimov. Past his best for sure but I think it'd be a fair assumption to say he wasn't the best vs southpaws.

For me in fantasy H2H match ups I'd not be confident picking anybody over Usyk while this era is far from the best they are infinitely more experienced with southpaws. I find it impossible to see anyone with no or very limited experience vs southpaws fairing well vs Usyk who has the most complex southpaw style of the lot. Anytime anyone figures him or starts having success he finds the adjustment and another gear, he is just a very unique and special fighter.

Don’t disagree with anything you said there really.

I have no doubt he would be at the very least amongst the top guys.

Anyone with that level of skill, will, chin and talent is not going to be easy to beat.